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Re: TDC Sensor Replacement (with pictures!)

The pictures are very helpful - BUT do not relate to the current replacement part. The part shown is Renault reference 8200 647554. Sadly you will discover the if you currently order 8200 647554 - my quoted price this week was 24 - the part will NOT fit your car! Unless it is the latest design.

Why!
Because Renault have charged the rectangular plug
connection (black as in the above pictures) to a ROUND
blue plug.
Renault have realised this problem so offer a kit plug
(small) with 6 inches of twin cable - that must be attached to your wire loom - so you can modifiy
the wiring loom. For an eye watering 24.
Apparently 25 minutes in the dealer book for fitting it.
Hence we can expect a bill for around 200.
As alleged above. One suspects that because more work is involved this figure will be increased.
How the hell a bit of wire with a plug can attract a charge like this - Beats me!
It strikes this Renault owner, as though they are providing finance to pay for their 2008/9 F1 escapades.

Incidentally I was at first surprised that an alternative
supplier was charging 38 - from experience usually very reasonable - when Renault is charging just 24 - But then I did not realise the necessary doubling up of the original 'bit!' The new bit is ref:- 8200 673202
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The pictures are very helpful - BUT do not relate to the current replacement part. The part shown is Renault reference 8200 647554. Sadly you will discover the if you currently order 8200 647554 - my quoted price this week was 24 - the part will NOT fit your car! Unless it is the latest design.

Why!
Because Renault have charged the rectangular plug
connection (black as in the above pictures) to a ROUND
blue plug.
Renault have realised this problem so offer a kit plug
(small) with 6 inches of twin cable - that must be attached to your wire loom - so you can modifiy
the wiring loom. For an eye watering 24.
Apparently 25 minutes in the dealer book for fitting it.
Hence we can expect a bill for around 200.
As alleged above. One suspects that because more work is involved this figure will be increased.
How the hell a bit of wire with a plug can attract a charge like this - Beats me!
It strikes this Renault owner, as though they are providing finance to pay for their 2008/9 F1 escapades.

Incidentally I was at first surprised that an alternative
supplier was charging 38 - from experience usually very reasonable - when Renault is charging just 24 - But then I did not realise the necessary doubling up of the original 'bit!' The new bit is ref:- 8200 673202
SamWoe
Useful info on part Numbers, thanks.

I would however, advise anyone who suspects they have a TDC problem to follow the simple steps listed in this thread:

1. Remove sensor
2. Clean sensor
3. Check conector block is clean and makes a good fit
4. Reassemble
5. Fire her up and drive with a satisfied grin.

This is successful more often than not and save a nice wedge of for under an hours fiddling.
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Well done fella, that will be a big help to people believe me.

I would just like to say that thanks to this forum I managed to fix my intermittent starting problem which had been infuriating me for about 3 months.

I am not all that mechanical, but will have a go with the right info to hand. Some kind person managed to get pictures from a French website to show the location of the top dead centre sensor. The advice was to remove it and clean the sensor.

In the clio 1.2 grande 2000 the battery block and cooling pipes block access, so it took me about an hour to get the thing off. Eventually I managed and gave the 3, hardly visible little sensors on the surface of the part a clean with WD-40, put it back on and the car has been starting first time, every time since.

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Re: TDC Sensor Replacement (with pictures!)

Just stumbled onto this forum.

Right this is my problem.

Three weeks ago my Megane (1996) RT 1.6 would not start, the engine turned but failed to start.

Because of how cold it was I decided to charge the battery over a couple of days just to make sure it was not that.

Put the battery back in and the same problem occured.

Called out the RAC he could not get it to go. Reckoned it was a flooded engine because there was a spark but the plugs stunk of petrol. He dried and replaced the plugs four times and still the same problem.

He recommended I take it to a garage. The garage reckoned the same but he found I only had good compression in one pot (#4). He said it would start with a tow, but if it didnt he was talking more of a serious engine problem that would cost more to fix than the car was worth.

Now seeing this thread could it be the TDC Sensor being at fault given the lack of compression, spark at the plugs and the plugs coated in petrol?
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Just stumbled onto this forum.

Right this is my problem.

Three weeks ago my Megane (1996) RT 1.6 would not start, the engine turned but failed to start.

Because of how cold it was I decided to charge the battery over a couple of days just to make sure it was not that.

Put the battery back in and the same problem occured.

Called out the RAC he could not get it to go. Reckoned it was a flooded engine because there was a spark but the plugs stunk of petrol. He dried and replaced the plugs four times and still the same problem.

He recommended I take it to a garage. The garage reckoned the same but he found I only had good compression in one pot (#4). He said it would start with a tow, but if it didnt he was talking more of a serious engine problem that would cost more to fix than the car was worth.

Now seeing this thread could it be the TDC Sensor being at fault given the lack of compression, spark at the plugs and the plugs coated in petrol?
I would have thought the TDC would not give a spark at the plugs if faulty. However, worth a clean before paying good money
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