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I had the same loud sreech before the window mech cable snapped. It's only half hour job to take the door card off and get at the mech to lubricate the cable and runners which could save you £200 for a new mech, may only delay the inevitable but worth a go. I can explain how to get the card off (Laguna II) of you need the info.

PS If you do the job make a note of the type of window mech you have (2 or 6 pin type the latter is fitted to cars with the comfort mode i.e. anti pinch mech, these can be obtained off e bay for around £110 and fitted in minutes.
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I had the same loud sreech before the window mech cable snapped. It's only half hour job to take the door card off and get at the mech to lubricate the cable and runners which could save you £200 for a new mech, may only delay the inevitable but worth a go. I can explain how to get the card off (Laguna II) of you need the info.

PS If you do the job make a note of the type of window mech you have (2 or 6 pin type the latter is fitted to cars with the comfort mode i.e. anti pinch mech, these can be obtained off e bay for around £110 and fitted in minutes.
Hi,new here so please have patience, I have had a problem with my N/S front window when I pressed button to open window it goes down a few inches then screeches to a stop, litterally. I visited my local renault rip off merchant and was told that it was the regulator and would cost £245 to fit shortly after a £400 servic e thats just not on and told the lady that **** Turpin had the decency to wear a mask. Any way my point!! can any techies tell me how to get the door card off so I can have a gleg, I'm an electromechanical engineer by trade and would be able to assess the situation but do not want to cause damage by forcing prizing the thing off. any info would be appreciated, my car is a laguna priveledge 02 plate ( II I think but not sure)
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Electric window problem

26/10/07 - This repair only lasted 1 year; I have just repeated it. Next time will buy kit mentioned in other posts for permanent fix.

I thought others may be interested to know that it does appear to be possible to fix Laguna electric window mechanisms which have suffered a snapped cable.

After a bit of a struggle, I seem to have mine operating normally again. The good news is that the parts required total less than 5.oo and are easily found in Halfords and B&Q. I must also mention that I would not have attempted this without the pictures posted earlier in this thread, and without the hints on removing the door panels on this site and others so many thanks to all.

Following an idea mentioned earlier in the thread, the broken cable can be replaced with a bicycle brake cable, cut to size using the remains of the original cable as a guide. The outer sheath of the new brake cable is of no use and should be discarded.

The difficult part is how to terminate the ends of the cable securely enough to cope with the high stresses produced when the motor moves the window up or down.

This problem can be avoided at one end by leaving one of the metal nipples on the new brake cable in place. As these are generally of different sizes, it makes sense to leave the smaller of the two in place. In addition, to ensure that it fitted neatly into the sliding plastic window support (see pictures in earlier post in this thread) I used a small hacksaw to reduce the size of the nipple by about half.

Before moving on to termination of the cut end of the new brake cable, it should be threaded through the original outer sleeve.

I found that the metal inner barrel cut from a plastic 3A electrical connector strip can be used to terminate the other end of the bicycle cable. Though this provides 2 screws to grip the cable, a blob of superglue in each of the screw holes before tightening ensures it holds securely.

It is then a case of separating the plastic drive wheel from the motor while paying careful attention to how the cables are wound around. The wiring arrangement should then be exactly copied as the motor and drive wheel are carefully reassembled.

The original cables seem to have been under considerable tension, and I found bottle nose pliers useful for easing the two white plastic tension adjusters into place.

Finally, grease the entire mechanism thoroughly before refitting to the inside of the door.

Useful hints:
- It is simplest to ease window glass off support lugs with the window in 3/4 open position. The same applies to refitting.
- I found plastic wedges purchased as part of laminate floor laying kit ideal for supporting window in fully closed position when mechanism removed.
- Now that you are practised in removing door trim, I recommend greasing mechanisms of all windows as prevention is definitely better than cure.
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Hi,new here so please have patience, I have had a problem with my N/S front window when I pressed button to open window it goes down a few inches then screeches to a stop, litterally. I visited my local renault rip off merchant and was told that it was the regulator and would cost £245 to fit shortly after a £400 servic e thats just not on and told the lady that **** Turpin had the decency to wear a mask. Any way my point!! can any techies tell me how to get the door card off so I can have a gleg, I'm an electromechanical engineer by trade and would be able to assess the situation but do not want to cause damage by forcing prizing the thing off. any info would be appreciated, my car is a laguna priveledge 02 plate ( II I think but not sure)
To get the door card off
1. remove the 3 torkx screws 2 at the bottom of the door and 1 in the door pull handle recess (under a plastic cover)
2 CAREFULLY prise off the card (its held on with small plastic pop clips and an adhesive strip) using a flat tipped screwdriver, put something between it and the paintwork bit of card/rag
3 unclip the door opener cable plastic cover and take off the cable.
4 unplug the switches, remove the switches first that is if you have the mirror switch and bank of window switches on the winder mech, they simply prise off by using a small driver to push in the locating clips. Remove the door light .
With the door card off you may find the adhesive strip has stretched so what I did was put a little line of super glue in the groove and stick the strip down and cut off the excess
5 the window mech is held on with 5 nuts (2 on each arm and 1 on the regulator/motor plate.
To remove the glass I found it easier to take off the top rubber door trim and lower the glass down. The glass is held in place on 2 plastic holders with retaining clips with lugs that go through the glass, reach in and release them by plulling the tabs off the lugs that go through the glass. Push the glass towards the door off the lugs and you should then be able to take it out through the top of the door ( keep it safe).
Undo the 5 nuts, unplug the motor unit and take out the window mech.
Replace the window mech tighten the nuts plug in the motor and lower the glass in from the top. The mech may be in a sort of mid-way psiton (on mine anyway) push the holes in the glass onto the plastic holders and replace the clips in the groove on the lugs. Replace the door opener cable in its holder and snap on the cover, plug the door light into its hole feed the wires for the switches into their holes. Replace the cables through the holes
I will be taking both rear doors apart soon to grease the mechs before they give trouble so I'll take some pics for reference
You can get relacement mechs off e bay for £110 make sure you order the correct type, 6 pin or 2 pin, 6 pin ones are fitted to cars with the anti pinch facility. This will be obvious when you take the door card off.
6 pin types are part no. 82 00 000 937 near side and 82 00 000 938 drivers side MAKE SURE BEFORE ORDERING. If anyone has a driver's side mech with a 29 pin plug (if you have electric seats) there is a simple way of fitting a 6 pin type saving mega bucks, the motor unit is basic to all type its just the regulator that differs.
I can give a contact who can supply if needed. Be quick they are in short supply!!
Hope this helps

PS there is another thread one with pics and a similar one to the above (mine) in the forum somewhere I'm sure a moderator will point you in the right direction

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Very helpfull many thanks I will give it a go
thanks again for your trouble

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