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View Poll Results: What is your avarage MPG?
0-10 MPG 1 0.06%
11-20 MPG 6 0.38%
21-30 MPG 85 5.32%
31-40 MPG 498 31.14%
41-50 MPG 868 54.28%
51-60 MPG 116 7.25%
61-70 MPG 15 0.94%
71-80 MPG 1 0.06%
81-90 MPG 1 0.06%
91-100 MPG 8 0.50%
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post #171 of 380 (permalink) Old 23rd February 2009
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i have noticed a difference no matter what people say
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Cool

to get all technical about the issue

All molecules experience intermolecular attractions. which basically mean all molecules have a small magnetic field which can be minipulated with a stronger magnetic field.
follow this link belo to explain the reasoning behing the magnetic theory:

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/55...scription.html
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post #173 of 380 (permalink) Old 23rd February 2009
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to get all technical about the issue

All molecules experience intermolecular attractions. which basically mean all molecules have a small magnetic field which can be minipulated with a stronger magnetic field.
follow this link belo to explain the reasoning behing the magnetic theory:

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/55...scription.html
Firstly, a patent is not an information source or document. It is allowed to say pretty much anything it wants in this sense.

I will try to explain this in a fairly simple fashion.

You are correct in saying that all molecules have attractions to each other (or repulsions). However, hydrocarbon molecules have only the weakest type, i.d.-->i.d.

The polarity actually swings between sides, thus any magnet (assuming it had any effect at all) would just switch. This would of course result in no net motion, and of course these forces are very weak anyway.

This comes down to people stating a fact (magnets impact on charged polarities) and extending it to something it doesn't apply to, non-polar molecules. There is a reason why water doesn't mix with oil .

Even if it did do what it suggests, there is no reason why "polar aligned molecules" would benefit the combustion process, which is non-uniform.

Of course this is proven in industry - we don't have magnets on the huge oil and gas power plants, despite it clearly being able to save £millions according to patent 5558765. Genuine reviews of such devices from an engineering perspective include:
http://www.fuelsaving.info/magnets.htm

Of course many wouldn't take my academic background in chemical engineering and process engineering background as a source. I am, however, taught to look for genuinely peer reviewed articles for evidence, surprisingly there are none to show it works
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I stand corrected. After reading the article supplied i have concerns, but i am still getting approx 8 MPG more. it must just be my careful driving although i have always been a careful driver.

I have also noticed that a lot of people are stating fuel comsumption figures for doing over 70 mph. why not just drop your speed which should decrease fule consumption as well as staying within the law of the road.
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normal stop start dailey grind to work and back about 43 mpg, longer clearer runs have had it up to 58 - 60 mpg 04 reg sprots waagon with 191 k on the clock.

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