Renault Forums :: Independent Renault forum - View Single Post - Renault Clio 2 - Bonnet Catch Failures

View Single Post
post #585 of (permalink) Old 19th March 2007
Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 6
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by brigatti View Post
We are not saying it is totally down to the Renault's fallible design or manufacturing approach for the catch mechanism (both catches that is!), but it is also down to the maintenance process too.

Many (if not the majority) of vehicle owner's don't envisage the need to maintain the bonnet catch mechanism (in the same way as checking the oil / tyre pressure etc) - and many assume that this is also done during routine servicing (major / minor). Apparently, we have identified that Renault do NOT mandate the servicing - so it's simply "pot-luck" whethe the bonnet catch is actually "looked at", yet alone cleaned and lubricated during servicing by Renault.

Back to your other point about a bonnet should stay close at all speeds - "if closed properly". Actually, the fact speaks for themselves. In th majority (if not all) of the reported cases, the mechanism has "released itself" without any intervention. You can safely state that maybe in 1-2 odd occassions, the driver didn't close the bonnet properly - and maybe it was on safety only. But all 1000+ cases? Can you honestly state this without any doubt whatsoever. Well this is the exact position we have posed to Renault and VOSA - and neither can prove that it is down to the last person who closed the bonnet (i.e. didn't close it properly). There is no TECHNICAL or OPERATIONAL evidence which they can use to confirm this.

All we have is facts, the main catch can only be released by pulling the release lever from the passenger's compartment. (Regardless whether the safety catch is "engaged" or not). So what has made the main catch release itself - possibly a bump in the road, maybe a gush of wind, but the catch is meant to be designed to cope with these types of "normal driving conditions". What makes it worse is that in the slim case the main catch does release, the safety catch should always been in an "engaged" position, what we have proved (VOSA and Renault now concur) is that there is a chance that the safety catch is stuck in the released position - meaning it's defunct in these circumstances. Doesn't this therefore sound like a flaw in the mechanism functionality - oh yes this means "design" or "construction" of it?

Can you see our point though?

I value your thoughts and insights, and am happy to hear that both catches seem fine on your vehicle - and hope that you are taking the responsibility of "maintaining" them - just pls accept the fact that's it is not as obvious as you think - if the bonnet is flush, and you are driving for up to 4 weeks without any signs of something "being wrong"!
I was in the midst of writing my response when you wrote this peice. I must confess that the release lever being on the passenger side is peculiar(in my experience most are on the drivers side) and this could be a factor. The safety catch design is very simplistic on the Clio and it has to be acknowledged, if not properly maintained could stick open. However, I believe that due to the mass car ownership times we live in, the main factor is going to be a human failing on the part of the user, no matter if those concerned like it or not. There are similarities when one considers how may drivers display a lack of responsibility in other areas these days. Driving too fast, adjusting their audio equipment on the move, using mobile phones when driving, chatting to passengers without paying attention. Then when something goes wrong they will look to someone else to take the blame. I see this every day in my job, which is working for the Police........
Currently in martinart's garage:
Renault Clio Dynamique 1.5dCi
martinart is offline  
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome