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Did you see fifth gear rip the sh!t out of renault bulb replacement? they had a meg against a golf - for NON XENON an experienced green flag engineer took an hour to replace the meg bulb whereas the dippy presenter took 53 seconds to swap the golf bulb, while drinking a cup of tea. Renault even say in the manual "you may need to contact a dealer" and the price to change a bulb? 50+ ... For Xenon you have to take the bumper off but they didn't say if other manufacturers were better in this respect. Renault's excuse was "it was so we could get 5 stars NCAP" - yeah but the golf had 5 stars too!!! Real answer is a) their engineers are less talented and b) they ran out of dev time/money

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Has the emergency key on the keybard got a groove in it - if not it probably was never cut in the frst place. If he is a member of the AA or such - they may be able to assist
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b) they ran out of dev time/money
c) Its political. Renault almost went bust years ago. In order to rescue them the french government bought shares in the company and had a rather large management switch around.

When you want to make as much money from customers as possible whats one of the best ways to ensure they come back? - Make servicing as hard as possible. That way customers are forced to come back and find the money once they've bought the car. After all once they've bought it they're not going to want to sell it too quick due to depreciation. Renault aren't stupid. They've just stitched up their customers. It's nothing to do with safety or the design time being short. They know full well at design stage that to change a bulb you need access. They certainly can't claim its an accident can they? Lets face it, headlights are quite a big part of a car at design stage... They know exactly what they've done and their trying to convince the gullable customers out there that they've done it in their best interests.

Thats my theory anyway.
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many thanks to all whos replied

he's now 'sorted' the problem out. it turns out the key card was at fault. it was taken apart, jiggled a bit and then the button pressed simultaneously. it seems a crack in the circuit board is the culprit. he's a lucky guy ! even the green flag guy didn't want to take it away (what with it having the handbrake on). i never knew the handbrakes on these things were electronic. i think renault are trying to be a bit too clever for their own good here.

it also turns out the emergency key inside the faulty card was a blank and not cut !!! the one in the card in the glove compartment was fine.

actually the 8500 for a totally new complete engine as it turns out i was a bit conservative on. i believe the whole thing was around 7900+vat. total madness. you can buy a complete car with the same miles on for around 7k !! but then again you could spend 7 grand on another one only for the engine on that to go pop.

i have this theory that RHD renaults are built on a friday afternoon at 4.50pm ! i've lost count of how many i've owned (having bought and sold a few in my time) but never again and neither will my mate !

renault if you're reading this (doubtful) get the reliability sorted out. they make great, comfortable and good looking cars but as soon as you get into the real world of running them........they're a nightmare !

and yes i did see the program about the headlight bulb thing on the new megan - totally scandalous, completely unreasonable and unnecessary. what were they thinking of when they designed it like that ? i really can't believe someone would actually go out of their way to make it that complicated just to change a simple consumable that probably has to be changed a couple of times a year.
what next i wonder ? wheel arches that completely cover the wheels so you have to take the wing off when you want to change a tyre ??

come on renault - get your act sorted.

there - rant over !
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I completely agree with you. In the long run it won't do renault any favours at all doing things like this. About 3 years or so ago i needed a right angle bit of radiator hose for a laguna about (6 inches long max) - went to the parts dept at the local dealership with 10 in my pocket asked the guy for the part - 17 !!! I said 'how much ?!' and he told me that if I'd come a week ago it would have been 5.60 but renault had just revised their prices. i went elsewhere.

renault seem to have adopted a short sighted policy that will bite them hard on the ar#e if they're not careful and they continue down the route they're on.

trying to work out what the font is you're looking for (i own a sign company in thetford)

i'd say have a look at the site 'www.whatthefont.com' but as the font is joined it won't recognise it i don't think. you may be able to post on there and someone could help you. certain companies have fonts exclusive to themselves (BT are one) and they can be quite protective of them !

worth a look though

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