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Re: should i buy a grand espace 3.0 dci help ??

There is an old saying in the motor trade.

If you're going to drive a transverse V6 engined car be prepared to have deep pockets.

That just doesn't apply to Renaults by the way.
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Re: should i buy a grand espace 3.0 dci help ??

Think about 55 for an oil filter from Renault...

That's what it was for my VS.


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Re: should i buy a grand espace 3.0 dci help ??

Unless a 3.0 dCi is very cheap, I'd probably go for a four-cylinder diesel. So good and powerful have 2.0 litre diesels been for some time now that larger six-cylinder ones seems hardly worth the trouble and expense for the marginal extra performance you get.
I remember this being a consideration back in 1970's New Zealand, where the 318 V8-powered Chrysler Valiant (230 bhp) was practically ignored in favour of the cheaper 265 Hemi 6-cylinder variant (205 bhp). I think the 3.0 dCi (180 bhp) is as pointless vis-a-vis the 2.2 (140 bhp) as the 318 was all that time ago.
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Re: should i buy a grand espace 3.0 dci help ??

it is a private sale i have been to look at it he has owned it from new it has done quite high miles 90k nearly its got full service history every time at renault its pretty immaculate every thing seems to work correctly no smoke etc its pretty cheap 3700 its an initiale model is it worth a gamble it really looks and sounds new i didnt ask if it had a new engine tho
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Re: should i buy a grand espace 3.0 dci help ??

3700 is a good price for that spec. I just paid 6800 for a late 06 one with FSH & 90k on the clock in very good nick, after shopping around quite a bit and thought that was an OK price. We were sold on the mega sunroof really.

If I'd seen the one you have in mind I'd probably have taken it - there's zero benefit in buying from dealers these days when you can do your own HPI check & buy your own warranty etc.

Maybe things really are cheaper up north ;-)

We have a Warranty Direct policy on the car for main dealers, costs 500/year.

Tax is a b-arch on these, being the highest band. 450

140 vs. 180BHP? I haven't read much overall (yes, factoring in the advice from d'Espacebetweenmyhears hereabouts) to say that the smaller engines last any longer - have rung 4 Renault dealers and spoken to head mechanics who said much the same. A solid FSH and no overly-visible smoke is about all you can do, barring getting a mechanic to check it over as well.

We are only really using if for holidays when it will be fully loaded (450L roofbox, 5-6 people + Labrador, 4 bikes, trailer, big tent, sink, etc) for me drivability under heavy load is more important than about-town economy. It gets 35MPG doing 80MPH along with everyone else, which isn't bad for a 1900kg garden shed on wheels.

And of course watching the Youtube crashtests of Espace's is always peace of mind.


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