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Re: Are Espaces as Unreliable as the reviews say?

Wotcha, I bought our Espace privately a couple of years ago and although it's petrol I can vouch for the general reliability of the rest of it so far (touch wood bearing in mind it's due a cam belt, service, mot etc).

The only nasty so far was the CPU in the steering lock failing but due to the age and low mileage Renault paid half the cost (without too much asking either, very pleasing customer service experience).

When buying it I, like you, was concerned after reading the horror stories but as others have mentioned a lot of people will be moved to write about their bad experiences but not the good. My conclusion was that it might be a it less reliable than certain other makes but it was the car that we wanted and suited our family needs so it was worth the risk. Maybe budgeting for a good after market warranty would be a good move!

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Re: Are Espaces as Unreliable as the reviews say?

Are Espaces as Unreliable as the reviews say?

Sorry, but you did ask.

Of course it is true that those who experience problems are far more likely to post reviews than those who don't. I very much doubt that I would ever have joined this forum had I not had problems with my Espace. If it's any comfort I am led to believe that more recent cars are less unreliable than those built in the earlier half of the 2000's, however don't get carried away. Renault still rank only 31st of 33 in the What Car 2011 reliability survey. Only Alfa and Land Rover fare worse. Look back to previous years surveys and it doesn't get any better.

Owning an Espace is a love hate relationship. They are gorgeous when they are working. Good to drive, extremely refined, comfortable to travel in. You trade that against the fact that you are constantly on guard for the next sign that something is going wrong, a strange noise, a judder, the mpg starting to drop, unusual smoke etc. Before long you will get that sign and don't expect many trips to the garage to cost less than 300-400. Even fairly routine repairs seem to cost several times what they would on a regular vehicle, or even rival MPV's such as Sharan or Galaxy.

As to your question about engines, I would certainly try and buy into the 2.0 dCi 175 if you can and avoid the 3.0. The second generation post 2006 3.0 dCi is fairly old technology, perhaps more so than the engine it replaced, but it does seem to have fewer inherent problems.

Buy any Espace diesel and expect it to visit the garage several times a year, and expect to spend a lot of money on the repairs when it does. If you get one that doesn't require it's own reserved parking space in the repair shop then treat it as a bonus. You buy an Espace for the love of it, not for any sensible reason.
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Re: Are Espaces as Unreliable as the reviews say?

I also have that nervous feeling.Bought my 2.0 litre petrol 2 years ago for various reasons...which I won't bother you with. When they work they are excellent motor way touring cars.I have replaced the alternator ( myself).It failed at 20+K miles.Diodes fail. Known fault.Autos eat brake pads and Espaces eat front tyres....all compared to my previous Voyager.The Espace engine is way more capable than the petrol voyager. The Espace is a much easier drive in town but eats fuel....check the gov figures not renaults. I have replaced both tie rods at 35 K
Just had a cam belt change....530 at Main dealer with all pulleys including crankshaft....includes 12 month warranty....but looks like I will need it. I have a strange vibration + knocking.....which is actually why i am on this site.....posting to pass this bit of info on.I have just located the fault,,,,engine mounting is loose.Going back to dealer this week.Local garage price was 360...I'm guessing without cranshaft pulley.When I select climate control my idling gets rough and the air con pump sounds noisey. The air con has been pumped up but it is poor on a hot day.Loads of glass on the Espace and will not blow icey cold like the voyager.Seats are heavy to remove and backs get scuffed easily.Abo****ely no boot space with 7 seats...voyager did have some AND LACK OF SLIDING DOORS BECOMES A BIGGER PAIN BY THE DAY.You must be careful not to hit body work when removing seats.Heater will blow powerfully from dash but if feebly to your feet which get cold as a result. The panoramic view is great in the mountains but the Espace is more difficult judging tight spaces compared to to the bigger voyager where the pillars do give some reference point. I do my own routine servicing and discovered that I have a weeping auto box. Fortunately my espace model does have a dip stick!!!! Some don' visit for a refil !!
Gear box whines in 1St gear .... so my fingers are for ever crossed!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Are Espaces as Unreliable as the reviews say?

I bought a Grand esapce 2007, had it for over a year now and have had no problems with it at all.
I think it is a very practical car.
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Re: Are Espaces as Unreliable as the reviews say?

We'v got a Espace 2 - 94 2.2 Petrol -105hp...This thing dont want ot die... after extreme torcher still alive... We sold it after 5y of heavy use a friends - car is still going...!!! 360k on it... and LPG!

But now we are talking for Espace 4, my 5 cent is to look for Phase 3. First few years- they got problems- any kind of them. So when we were watching here for one - everybody told us - after 2009y. Or phase 3 not sure when this starts..Hope this helps a little..
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