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The IDE engine is notoriously unreliable.
In fact I think Renault dropped it comletley a few yrs ago.

As the car is playing up before you even buy it ,personally I would avoid it, nice as it may seem otherwise. The salesman is bullSh1**ing !

There are good examples of the 2.0 ide around, many mebers have had trouble free ( relatively) motoring with them.

The newer Lags have had bad press and were unreliable in the earlier days ( esp the 1.9dci) however by late 2003 a lot of problems and faults were sorted and these cars are much better.

I would not buy ANY make of car these days without at least 12mths warranty

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An IDE should be badged 2.0 IDE on the doors. The later VVT is (I think) badged 2.0 16v instead.

Rumour has it (almost from the horse's mouth, mind you) that the reason for the withdrawal of the IDE was down to serious and very expensive reliability issues. The scare stories mention engines often needing replacing with as little as 50K miles on the clock.

But nobody's ever told us what proportion of the engines suffered from these problems. If as few as 5% required replacement, that might be enough for Renault to scrap the design in favour of a more reliable one, while still meaning that 95% of the cars are fine. At least one of our members has an IDE with nearly 200K on the clock that still hasn't shown the serious problems that have caused the scare.

Having had an IDE that was a bit of a dog reliability-wise, I doubt I'd touch another one. It's a shame really, because it's an excellent engine when it's running right: Reasonably powerful for a 2.0 non- turbo petrol, and with much better torque characteristics than your typical multivalve petrol engine.
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It would be of interest to have a list of engines with IDE . For example the engine in my 2L Laguna is F4R and so far it has been most reliable. The mileage is now approaching 92,000 and apart from cambelt and drive belt changes no problems.
The only thing I must add is that after driving to work one day through monsoon type rain and flooded roads I did have a problem with a lot of spluttering and hesitation but after a night in the garage with the heating on this problem disappeared. So to go back to my original remark in this thread, do you jetwash car engines with so many electronic sensors onboard.
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Thumbs up ide engine 2ltr ide

Hi all

My engine a 2 ltr ide has now done 85,000 and not missed a beat (apart from when some numpty put wrong plugs in) driven it through pouring rain and it is never garage parked still on original clutch ect .
The ide engine was not withdrawn due to faults well that is faults as in faulty engines it was designed to have good mpg ie to compete with diesels and this it was never going to compete with . The unit was quite an expensive one to produce it was designed with Renault & volvo and various units were put in megans to lagunas to volvo from 99-03 they gave way and stopped producing the engine technology had moved on with diesels .
Yes there are the odd owner who has had a bad one but hey in this forum people are most likley to moan . Look at the amount of diesel faults only a few people write to say they are having problem free motoring .
All in all i am happy with the engine but let down by poor Renault customer service and 88 per hour labour costs

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Jetwashing engine

Many cars with lots of electronics have either a note in the handbook or a label in the engine bay saying that the engine should NOT be jetwashed under any circumstances.

Personally, not only would I walk away from this particular car, (why indeed was it considered necessary to jetwash the engine) I would walk away from the garage.
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