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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 12th January 2007
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Originally Posted by superbiatch View Post
I actually think using phones and smoking/eating etc are all dangerous at the wheel. Even when using a bluetooth headset with the phone.

I know sometimes work have phoned me whilst i've been on the motorway and asked me something like where a file is on a shared drive and i've had to think it through, and my mind has not been on the road. Maybe thats just me
Well it's me too. So far, while on hands-free, I've...
Been on an unfamiliar roundabout and had no idea which exit I was supposed to be taking.
Driven too fast past a speed camera and had it flash (fortunately no ticket followed)
Nearly missed my exit from the M6 onto the M56.

Fortunately I've never had a near miss though.

Phone calls can be a distraction, hands-free or not, though it depends on the kind of call. If the person at the other end is demanding a lot of concentration (expecting you to solve a problem or remember something from ages ago) then it's a lot worse than if a friend is just ringing up to see how you are.

The problem is that if they ban using mobiles while driving altogether, people will just break the law. What's more, they'll have no incentive to use hands-free because it'll be just as illegal as holding the handset to your ear.

A hands-free kit is safer than a handheld mobile, so the status quo is about the best we can expect.
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What a joke that you'll be breaking the law if you park legally with your engine running and use your phone. I dont believe it!!

Isn't it illegal to drive with your fog lights on if theres no fog. That one really pi##es me off, all you see nowadays is young blades poncing around in their Saxo's with fog lights during the day. To##ers!!
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The law on using a phone is a complete farce, it is not the act of holding a phone that is dangerous it is the concentration lost when holding a complicated conversation on the phone.

How many people to you see driving one handed anyway?

The law only goes half way to making the roads safer.
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i got done £30.00 plus 3 points over 3 1/2 years ago.driving my hgv while a customer was directing me to there premises.i was delayed on the docks,my booking time was 8am didn't leave the docks till after 9am to go to nottingham,the company was on a new industrial estate and not listed in my a-z.


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Originally Posted by davesss View Post
it is not the act of holding a phone that is dangerous it is the concentration lost when holding a complicated conversation on the phone.
The problem with hand held phones is that the user will NOT let go of the phone for less important things, like changing gear (they let go of the steering wheel instead), looking over their shoulder when changing lanes/overtaking etc (they just indicate - sometimes - and do it).

When I was dumped on my a$$ at 70mph on the m66 it was because the car driver had the phone in his right hand, held to his left ear. He couldn't turn his head far enough to see me when changing lanes.

Your right about the concentration as well tho. Test have shown drivers have less awareness when on the phone than if they are over the drink/drive limit.
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