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post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 27th February 2007
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Hi - I don't believe a driver could be convicted on the records of using his phone -but could be used to support evidence provided by a witness - like the poor driver or pedestrian (or cop) who has been clobbered by some dimwhit who insists ot phoning whilst driving. In this case I think it would be accepted. I know of an instance where a driver was sitting a traffic lights minding his own business -then wham - he looked in his rear view mirror and yeh the person who slammed into him had the phone jammmed under their chin (no wonder he couldn't see where he was going - DOH!!). When police arrived on the scene the injured party clearly stated to the police the other driver was seen using his phone - but guess what the other driver denied doing so. In this case it was one persons word against the other - so you could see phone records would have supported the evidence in this evidence. Talking on a phone whilst driving is nowhere the same as holding a converstaion with a passenger. Passengers in the car are fully aware of what is going on at the time and would realise if the driver either stopped taliking or ignored them - the person on the other end of the phone wouldn't be aware of what is going on. Would you like to be in a airplane if the pilot was on the phone discussing his love-life during landing -I think NOT - (I hear you say). Recently I was with a driver who insisted in using her phone whilst driving and in all honesty I never heard as much unnecessary drivel be discussed (new make-up and colour of lipstick was the tone of the converstaion). I spoke to the owner of a small local delivery company and asked him did he supply his drivers with phones and hand-free kits and he said "Of course how else could I do business - I asked if his business or delivery times had improved as a result and guess what "No". He went on to explain that prior to mobile phones - his staff had to plan their daily work schedules but when the holy mobile arrived - they could just faff about and tended to chap and change as they went So I don't think the mobile phone hasn't really improved our daily lives as much as we think it has.
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Using Mobile phones whilst driving is just as dangerous whether they are handheld or not.

How many people do you see driving one handed anyway? some leave their hand on the gear lever, some find it necessary to hold the roof on.

It is not the holding of a phone that is dangerous it is the concentration on talking on the phone instead of concentrating on driving the car.

The government have will not admit it is dangerous to drive whilst using hands free as the police cannot stop every car that apparently has someone talking to themselves in it.

As for talking to passengers that is completely different, like madnoel, I stop listening or talking to passengers when I need to concentrate more.

The new law is only half way to lessening life threatening crashes
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Originally Posted by davesss View Post
It is not the holding of a phone that is dangerous..... .
Is it not davesss! What if you need to take evasive action but only have one hand on the wheel?

Not getting at you just stating a fact! I mean I never drive whilst using my phone, if it rings they can wait, but I have been guilty of driving one handed most of the time and I can only assume that this is dangerous as I do not have 'full' control of the vehicle

Too add....just the other day, I was driving past a lorry on a two lane road coming up to traffic signals and the driver of the lorry, who was on the phone, swerved to my side of the road making me swerve onto the otherside of the road. Luckily there was nothing coming the otherway otherwise I imagine I wouldn't be typing this now!

I agree with the new laws re use of a mobile whilst driving. It's about high time they severely punished this crime.

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I think it's clear that using a hands-free mobile phone is safer than using a handheld one. The issue is whether or not the simple act of taking a phone call is distracting enough to cause a safety issue in itself.

I've already given examples of how my awareness of my surroundings has been compromised by driving and holding an 'involved' phone conversation at the same time. I'm a great believer that having certain kinds of conversation is indeed a significant distraction. I'd say it's also a given that it makes me less aware of potential hazards on the road - if I'm not spotting speed cameras, then I'm probably missing that car that might be about to jump out of a side turning.

What I don't think it affects is my ability to respond to an emergency situation should it present itself. I have had to react to driving emergencies while on the phone before now, and my instant reflex reaction is to give my full attention to the situation on the road.

So if there's a problem, it's with my ability to assess potential hazards and adapt my driving before they turn into emergencies. But as I see it, if a car pulls out of a side turning in front of me or a pedestrian just steps out into the road without looking, the accident is still their fault. I don't want to be held responsible just because I happened to be in the middle of a telephone conversation, even if it could be argued that the accident wouldn't have occurred if I hadn't been on the phone.
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yeah Smoking while driving is another one that should be banned ... In my opinion ..
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