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Hi speed cars..useable?

I dont mean hi performance.

If a car has great acceleration,instant "go" in any gear or even has to be revved like crazy to get good acceleration ,ok

Back when I first started looking at machines Id like (preteen ) a rickman zr seemed to be a no brainer..160+ top speed and accel better than any "supercar"

Over time riding in the rain, being a "ton up" boy(without a fairing) and the disadvantages of motorcycles and dating became more obvious.

but what about cars and their top speed in the real world.
Forget about yer veyron type..special key to set the car up,the factory being able to track you by satellite,relying on the car to run out of fuel at max speed before the tyres disintegrate etc.

Most fast cars now seem to have the 155mph speed limiter.Boooo you say.. well yeh maybe.

When do we actually get to go that fast(even if we could), and would we want to.
nb I dont care about the fuel consumption, for the purposes of the q.

Ill use the phrase "private track" as opposed to public road and disregard autobahns ftm.

On a private track the fastest indicated speed in a car Ive ever gone is 130 mph.I dont have any penalty points either but am never below the speed limit,sort of a "max you can get away with",possibly like a lot of people?

Probably a lot of fast cars can be delimited,but is it safe?
German ones Id trust ..cos of their tough home mot and oem sanctioned 200 mph special editions but other makes.. not too sure.

Even then,does anyone use that hi speed cabability for continuous use(outside of Germany).

Like If I had a car genuinely capable of 155(limited) I think Id go for it ,once, on a stretch of "private track" I was well aquainted with n thas about it.

Other than that ..here anyway maybe its different in UK ,Ive never seen anyone going over 120 day or night,blips up to 120 thatd be.Long term cruising more like a max of 100.
Thats most likely human nature and speed checks etc,must be nothing more annoying than going past at 120 to have the passee seing you stopped, fishing for your driving lic a couple of miles down the road.

Here(Ireland)as Ive been looking into such things
Take it that on average a 3.0l+ car will cost you 2000 pa in road tax. a 6.0l car would cost the same thing.
A genuinely 155 mph capable car with commensurate pdg accel,say sub 6.0 sec 0-60 with trendy good emmision figures could be as low as 1000 pa.gee aint we the lucky ones.

after all that , I suppose what Im really wondering is do UK members ever see people regularly 150mph or over even tho the max motorway limit is lower than here?
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Re: Hi speed cars..useable?

In a way what's the point in any UK spec car being capable of more than 80mph on public roads?

I always smile inwardly when I pass a Ferrari or similar in a queue of traffic as its the only time I can sometimes be faster than a supercar

With the cameras and weight of traffic on the majority of all roads now (safe) high speed kicks are hard to come by.
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Re: Hi speed cars..useable?

Ive had a "it will allways do 80 mph no matter what" car n it was ok in general(citroen ax in a couple of variations including diesel)
A 90 mph car.. and have one now,
It does what it says on the tin

Scenario: the ferrari of which you speaketh..lets say youre not in a traffic queue,but on the motorway.
The ferrari can hold 155mph all day long(well until the tank runs out and you can hold what 110?

In overtaking situations/and or bursts up to 130 cos it seems safe mr ferrari says bye bye as you might take 5 miles to even reach 130 but ,in the UK are there any hi speed merchants operating.. like on the "old A1 from Podbury to Bidlington"(made up names ) or is it just pretty much like here now?

Maybe Ill get something quick and push till the lic squeaks, dont want to be a penalty point virgin forever
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Re: Hi speed cars..useable?

i have a friend who has an Evo 8, and it came as standard with 260 bhp

to me, thats pretty good, but he decided he wanted 400bhp out of it, so he spent thousands on new turbo ect and tuning, and finally achieved his goal

but that still wasnt enough, now it has to have 600bhp, that meant full engine forge and rebuild, another new turbo , and many other replacement parts

so it has now been off the road for the last 8 months in the garage, the present bill is running at about 6 grand, for what ? the speed limit is still 70 mph

hes not loaded, earns the same as me, is 6 grand worth 2 seconds off your 0-60 time ? and possible loss of home ?

i would love a super car, sub 3 second 0-60, but im pretty sensible and ill live with 150bhp

speed limiters are there for a reason, some of the parts on cars are only guaranteed safe up to 150 mph

you make your choices, you take your chances
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Re: Hi speed cars..useable?

I guess I should contribute to this thread, since 2 of my machines are capable of >180... (one very much so).

For the bike, I wanted something that could cover long distance swiftly, comfortably and economically. My reasoning was that a bike that can go 2.5 times what I'll travel at - is well over-engineered for my purposes. I achieve 65 mpg, so my reasoning seems to be well-founded.

For the car, a similar line of thinking was employed. I've always wanted something with genuine 'go' and with a limited annual mileage figured that there's no time like the present. I guess most people could be very happy with 476 BHP, coming from the Rodius the difference is like comparing a penny farthing to my ZZR. Yet, I knew the engine can be reliably reconfigured for a bit more, so it was a case of 'go large or go home'.

Will I use the extra 60-65 top speed? Probably not, but the acceleration - I will, (now & again), and from a safety perspective, the ability to accelerate out of trouble is as important to me as any bolt-on safety system.

Plus, I derive a (childish) satisfaction in knowing there are only a few cars faster than mine, and none are as subtle - some may even think mine is the diesel with big wheels - a real Q-car.

Boys get bigger, and so do their toys.


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