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Re: Mileage checking

Originally Posted by Glynn View Post
The same MOT station that had entered 35.5k one year did the MOT next year, but recorded 4.5k.

Hi Glynn is it possible a new clock was fitted? This information should be available from any Renault dealer providing all the services etc have been done by a Renault dealership

BTW I may have missed out on something related to the above if so sorry, I been too busy planning a trip out tomorrow.
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Re: Mileage checking

It all sounds quite odd IMO. Even on a minimal mileage you wouldn't normally leave a new car to go 18 months before a service. I'm very surprised there are no records of a basic oil change type service and general check over within this time. Is this because the car was 'imported' and the supplying dealer didn't offer any kind of servicing agreement?
Also 500 miles a year seems extra-ordinarily low, even as a 2nd vehicle, unless it was bought as a future classic to put away until it reached high values in future years?
Have a look at the tyres...they should tell the story. If the mileage is only <6k there should be plenty of tread left and they should all be the same brand. If the mileage is a high as 35K then they would either near bald or probably changed for replacements in pairs in which case you'll find the brands mixed (its unlikely tyres are replaced with the same brand as which the car left the factory with). Don't forget to include the spare tyre in the checks for the brand.
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Re: Mileage checking

all i can say is if in dought walk away
and yes the mileage can be changed either by fitting another dash and other means
my old kangoo the mileage was 30000 out but i know the last owner had the comman fault of a faulty dash so he got another as new to the old milage as he could and told me before i bought it
the mot confirmed it as it recorded the last 5 years mileage
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Re: Mileage checking

First and only service was done at a Peugeot dealer - just my luck! Probably happened as Barnsley no longer has a Renault Dealership since Dixon's went under. Dealer who serviced car was Harrats, so a reputable dealer with Renault branches in neighbouring towns, but Renault Customer Services had no record of the service. They didn't have a record of the car from its registration, but say that is normal for a non dealer network supplied car. They tracked the car from the VIN and can confirm that it is a full UK spec car ordered by a car supermarket direct from the factory in France, but couldn't confirm which car supermarket ordered it. The single previous registered keeper says he bought it new from the Car People, who have confirmed they supplied it to him brand new with zero miles on the clock, so that all checks out. I guess that makes it a parallel import.

The guys business story checks out - he is recorded on various online websites as being the owner of two building company's within the last 10 years - slight change of name for the same company at the same address part way through, so his story about using a van as his daily commuter checks out.

The MOT station that tested the car on its first MOT say they believe they made a typographical error, but have no records to support that. The previous owner says he just accepted the MOT cert and filed it, never checking the details - we all have busy lives and I can believe that, though it is rather stupid and has made a pig of things now.

I have considered this carefully after researching as much of the car as possible, and all I have been told checks out as far as I can see. I think it is probably genuine, as a few hundred miles in the first 12-18 months (I can't remember the exact mileage and date on the service book stamp - the dealer did show me the book), compared to 35k in the next 18 months, then 4k in next 12 months, and approx 500 a year thereafter is highly unlikely. If the 1st MOT was a typo and should have been 3532 instead of 35532, then each year the car would have done between about 500 and about 1500 miles, which stacks up fine. And the interior, bodywork and engine of the car looks as though it has just driven out of the factory, which would support the current mileage.

The only real doubt that now remains is that, assuming we don't get on with the smaller vehicle (moving from a Kangaroo - that's my affectionate name for our Kangoo), and want to sell the Megane CC in the near future while it still has significant value (the asking price is 4980), we may run into the self same problem with the potential new owners, and then the car won't look quite so 'brand new' as we have no garage to house it in, and the leather seats will have stretched more. Think I am going to go back to the dealer and present a case for a further discount to compensate for this factor - eg, present the potential problem, ask them to determine the difference in value between a 5k and a 41k model (because the history shows mileage that adds up to 41k), and knock that amount (or near) off the price as a good will jest urge, which will go part way towards the 70 we have lost messing around with the insurance.

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Re: Mileage checking

Forgot to mention, Renault did confirm that they have never sold a set of clocks for the car, so, unless the guy had managed to obtain a set of clocks without going through Renault, such as from a wrecker with extremely low mileage, or the clocks have been tampered with, and I can see no evidence of that, then the mileage recorded appears correct. They also confirmed that it should have had a cam belt change last year, so get that sorted. Not sure I want a Toyota dealer to do that so I might concede it - no disrespect to the dealer, but I think I would pref such a key engine component to be sorted by a trained proffesional for the vehicle and get the dephaser pulley done at the same time.

A further point to note is that the dealer says they will guarantee the mileage is correct as shown on the clock, or, if we can prove it is not correct at any time within the next 6 years, they will give us a full refund on the price of the vehicle.

They also offer a full 5 days satisfaction money back guarantee and 3 months (Toyota supplied) warranty on the car which we can upgrade to 12 months for 350 or 24 months for 500approx from memory. Looked at the warranty, and wear and tear stuff isn't included as you would normally expect, so wasn't planning to upgrade it from 3 months
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