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Sorry, over the limit is over the limit, no matter if its the next day or you moved your car a few yards, a kid can still run out in front of you and it could have been his child. The limit is set for a reason you can't start moving the boundaries it would get too complicated. The guy in the car park could have just parked his car, though in this case it does seem a bit strong as he could have proved he was topping up his parking and not intending to drive (I thought you weren't allowed to top up your parking anyway). I believe you can buy breath testers, so if you go out but are driving the next day it might be wise to get one especially if you have only had a couple of drinks, a full nights binge will take until the following evening to get out of your system. In an ideal world we could all get tested to see a what point we are effected by alcohol, the majority of us would be ok with a glass of wine with a meal, but there's always the one who is under the table after a small shandy, if we knew our limit and stuck to it the world would be a safer place, but that will never happen. I've worked in A&E and seen the aftermath of a drunk driver, scenes that haunt me now, its not just the death of a person its the destruction of a family and the psychological effect on the people in attendance. It's just not worth it.
Another bug bear of mine is parents who don't fasten their kids in the back seats, I once saw an accident when mum put kiddy wink on her knee and thought it was safe because she was holding him, they were involved in a head on and she crushed the child into the seat in front. I know its illegal not to fasten passengers in but how many of us have seen back seat passengers with unfastened seat belts.
Get them fastened, if you are in an accident that back seat passenger will become a missile that will kill the people in the front seats, who ironically will have fastened their belts.
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Sorry, over the limit is over the limit, no matter if its the next day or you moved your car a few yards, a kid can still run out in front of you and it could have been his child.
Granted, but I still think we should have more flexible sentencing. By default, people should still qualify for a minimum of the current ban, but I feel that the defence should be able to put forward certain factors in mitigation, reducing the length of the ban.

In this scenario, people still end up off the road for a period of time. They still have a drink-driving conviction, and the associated increase in insurance premiums. They still get hit with a hefty fine. The difference being that they don't end up paying with their livelihoods, and becoming another unemployment and house reposession statistic just for making a stupid mistake.

In my opinion, pre-meditated drink-drivers still deserve the full wrath of the law. I just wonder how many of us can say, hand on heart, that there's never been any question in our mind that we might be over the limit - especially the morning after.

I bought one of those self-test breathalisers a while back for morning-after use, but even when I used it I wasn't certain of the accuracy. I'd only drive if I could blow a zero the following morning (there was only one time I didn't, and we were still drinking shorts at 4am that day - we were supposed to be on the road at 8 )

It eventually stopped working, and I bought a replacement which was much fancier, but the digital display was a lot less accurate (it lit up in segments rather than moving a needle.) I trusted that one even less, though I'd still use it if I could remember where I put it.

Apart from potential innacuracy, the danger with self-test devices is people using them to prove their BAC level prior to leaving the pub. It can take half an hour or more after the last drink for your BAC to peak, so you could be under the limit when you get behind the wheel, but over when you're stopped.
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I hope everyone drinks sensibly this Christmas and really enjoys themselves, as to banning/cutting back on the selling of it, then good as it is bad for you if taken out of moderation. .

Alcohol has a biphasic effect on the body, which is to say that its effects change over time.[1] Initially, alcohol generally produces feelings of relaxation and cheerfulness, but further consumption can lead to blurred vision and coordination problems. Cell membranes are highly permeable to alcohol, so once alcohol is in the bloodstream it can diffuse into nearly every biological tissue of the body. After excessive drinking, unconsciousness can occur and extreme levels of consumption can lead to alcohol poisoning and death (a concentration in the blood stream of 0.55% will kill half of those affected). Death can also occur through asphyxiation by vomit.
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DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE..............I am legless because of someones else's stupidity literally, take it from me its not worth it leave the car and keys at home............
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Originally Posted by tankface View Post
Aye, that's why I don't intend to drink much. I don't normally anyway - It usually takes me an hour to get through one pint
Makes for cheap nights out though

Have a cool Yule, y'all.
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