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personally i would have the XM they can be troublesome but if you understand the cars a little they are no worse than any other big french car

They are all a pain to live with but superb when behaving
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Hi to everyone for their warm welcomes and advice so far...

Been speaking to a friend of a twice Avantime owner yesterday when looking at an XM (more in a bit)... Seems both had tiny niggles but otherwise one was fine and the other was a complete dog. Saying that - after the past few years, would the doggy ones be weeded out and generally sorted by now or do they tend to be problematic for some time.

Drove down to look at this XM in my Xanita - getting back in and driving the XM (a very, very nice late top spec one) felt more of an experience than merely just driving - there's a real sense of occasion than with my Xanita, even though it too is a V6.

It's that sense of occasion that I can imagine is there with the Avantime when stationary but maybe drops out of the equation when on the move.

I do like the looks of the Vel Satis but wonder, despite the impressive interior, whether there's much of that sense of occasion there (sorry, I know that's all down to personal taste). I just have an inkling it might feel like a bigger Laguna rather than a comfortable, luxury, cruising car.

I guess I'll have to try harder to hunt one of each down closer to me else if that XM's still for sale in a couple of weeks it might be on my drive...


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Go with the Avantime - the sense of occasion IS still there when on the move. It is not a good car if you like to pick your nose!!

Then when, and if, it breaks down it's still lovelly to look at!!


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I didn't know the XM had so many fans!.

I'm amazed.

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Hi there.

I'm not sure if I'd have the b@ll$ to buy the XM - the suspension system is enough to give me sleepless nights...

Regarding the choice between the Vel Satis vs the Avantime - I guess it really comes down to whether you plan on carrying rear-seat passengers. The Avantime has often been referred to as a reverse tardis (there is less space inside than the exterior would have you believe), whereas the VS is an extremely spacious car for up to 5. The other benefits are; you get the option of a diesel (I have the 3.0DCi, which has loads of torque, and at least 35mpg no matter what), plus, since is is still in production (in a lhd format), parts supply should be less of an issue.

I've had my car now for 18 months, and added just over 30,000 miles to it - the only unforeseen expense (touch wood) so far has been a new battery due to an electrical short.

Its a real pity that Renault stopped selling this car in the UK, as I would have another one without hesitation.

I would suggest that whichever you purchase, that you investigate aftermarket warranties (cost & coverage), as these cars aren't mainstream models, parts are priced accordingly.

Happy hunting.


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