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post #16 of 26 (permalink) Old 24th March 2008
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Sorry to say it but the lagunas are not the most reliable car of the renault range. I've had less trouble with our 1.6e Megane.

Take a look through these forums, the majority of trouble shooting posts are related to lags.

If you want a good renault that is cheap, get a safrane off ebay for around 6-700. Make sure it is the 2 or 2.5ltr phase 2 as they have volvo engines.
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i had one go out side the house,luckilly i wasn't driving.had both replaced 120.00 at a local garage.also had bushes replaced,also 120.00.as for the spring quality,i think a lot of cars and parts are made from recycled steel,which does not have same strengh as raw materials.as for reliability of reno's i have had few probs.maybe i have been lucky.and like the motor.


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I've owned and driven loads of cars like the rest of us and have never had a coil spring break on me. At last year's MOT one of the springs was reported as broken and was duly replaced. There was no obvious 'drop' on the affected corner and I just put it down to 'one of those things' until I was recently asked to sign a disclaimer about faulty front springs on 02 & 52 registered Lag 2's when I left my car at a long term car park - obviously a problem they have experienced with cars of that year.
Guess what was found when I had a tyre replaced recently? Yep the coil spring was broken on the other side. It definitely seems good practice to replace both
at the same time.
Is there likely to be any recompense from the maufacturers if this is a recognised problem? Has any one tried?
I used to be a big Lag 2 fan until I bought my second one. Like a lot of you I now say never again!
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My 1994 Espace was found to have both rear springs broken at last MOT. No outward signe and no funny feel to car as the break was in the top first turn so very difficult to spot under the plastic tube round the spring and spring was still being located in cup while under load...only spotted when car jacked up and spring seemed a bit looser than MOT man thought it should be. He says there are a lot more broken springs now a days than there ever used to be.
I am surprised anybody buys Renault in view of the following:-
My local Renault main dealer service manager seems particularaly ignorant as to how Renaults are put together and how to fix them.....I have advised him eventually on a couple of things.....reading this forum seems to show a lot of other people experiance simmilar.
Customer care?!?!?!? do they have any.
Very expensive to replace bits.....eg suspension - instead of rubber bushes on some bits you have to buy a whole arm. And poor dealer identification of bits and faults.

Good thing about Espace is plastic non rusting pannels (but even on that the paint peals off!) and galvanised framework and the room inside.

Someone said they would not like to drive an over 25 year old car for a large milage a year......as someone else said...just wait till you are out of waranty on your newer model.....even buying a new car every year (at a large money loss) is no guarantee of a good reliable car.
My Reliant Scimitar 1976(plastic body..galvanised chassis) is far more desirable to drive long distance with only snag being less room inside for very large articles. It is far cheaper in the long run and can only appreciate as long as I continue to maintain it in the proper manner.
The Scimitar is at the age/milage where replacement bits are occasionally required due to normal wear and tear, but all jobs are a do it yourself case if you have reasonable facilities and they do not require silly technology. Yes it is still capable of happily crusing at 100mph ++ The cost of some of the repairs (or in a lot of cases non repairs) seen on this forum are more than I paid for my Scimitar in the first place !
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to be fair my lag1 1.8 needed a waterpump (Nicely on aux belt NOT cam belt) And my Espace 3 was a great car, however as comfy and as quirky as they are especially the espace 3, the repair and service costs even at ten years old is far greater than there rivals. Like espace 3 3.0 v6.... Engine out for spark plug change.....
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