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Rant about Quality - Broken Spring Now

Just went out to the car earlier today and noticed it sitting down lower than usual on the front near side. Ok I thought, no problem, we'll go out in the car that doesn't break at random intervals. So I'm now back and spent half an hour of my easter sunday with the overalls on and have found a broken spring. It looks like it has simply snapped, it's a clean break and there's nothing to suggest it was partly broken. ie no dirt/rust etc at the break - it's a clean shiny break right through the complete thickness. There's every chance it broke while sitting in the driveway as I'm sure the other half would've noticed the rubbing on her way home on friday.

Now is it me, or is it rediculous that our car, which has only about 40k miles on it, should need things like this? The only time I've ever had to replace a spring on a car was about 10 years ago on a Merc 190 with 160k miles on it, which is fair enough considering it's mileage. It doesn't get treated rough, there's no speed bumps on it's general commute, and it's average speed on the computer is always below 30mph. I know it not a new car, but it's not an old one ither.

Other things that go wrong regularly:

Rear suspension bushes changed at 30k (granted that was over a year ago and they're still ok).
Air-Con radiator corroded and needed replaced (about 2 years ago).
Engine management light on at random intervals. Renault want to start changing random bits and charging me for it. Sorry, no! (Oh and when it does come on you physically need to stop the car to switch off and on again. Not like other cars you can switch off and on while moving.)
Handbrake operating section of rear brake calipers randomly sticking in the "on" position but without putting the handbrake on - causing handbrake cable to come loose inside centre console. Any given side needs stripped down and lubricated every few months.
Window regulator broken on 1 door.
Tyre pressure system has a mind of it's own in winter (except on days that it doesn't).

Ok so it doesn't actually break down, as in it starts every day - but it's made from papier mache.

Take one of my parents cars - old style vectra 2.2 petrol auto, a year older than our Lag. They've had it a few years and its now got about 60 or 70k on it. Nothing has ever broken on it - nil, nada! It gives them over 30 to the gallon too with the big engine, and over 40 on a run at a sensible speed. Or one of our previous cars (also a vectra but diesel) - nothing again and it had 140k on it when sold. The list could go on.

Yes the Renault has nice toys, comfy seats, nice padding and a good stereo - but the build quality is absolute pants. I don't think I'll ever have another Renault - it's no wonder they're cheap!
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yeah the springs on the lag 2's are very common. definantly down to poor manufacturing. glad im going to vauxhall dealer for me new job after what you said lol. bad things about the lag 2 springs is im pretty sure renault reccommend you replace both sides at the same time on them. very common problem and always happens outside warranty. you gonna change the shocker top to while you at it? ive found it best to because a few times the car has come back to work a few weeks later with a collapsed bearing in the top
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(Oh and when it does come on you physically need to stop the car to switch off and on again. Not like other cars you can switch off and on while moving.)

You have tried this ? Switching your car off and on whilst driving, I'm stunned.

Surely this is very dangerous.........?

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Sorry to say it but lags do seem to be rather breakdown prone. You look at these forums and you will find plenty of people suffering with their lags.

Renault didn't put a lot of thought into many of their cars I'm afraid.

The only time you will get a good renault is when it is one of their most expensive- the avantime or the vel satis for instance.

Even my safrane is an exec car and cost 28.5k new. That has a few problems at the moment too (also including a snapped coil spring but it isn't causing a serious problem at the moment) but the overall quality of it is far superior to our megane which is out the back with a knackered head gasket. All cars go wrong, but unfortunately Renaults 'cheaper' cars are very cheap on quality. They're not the easiest of cars to work on either as they're not really designed for easy access to parts.

My neighbour drives a 1973 VW beetle. He can fix every single part on it quite literally. Unlike a megane for instance, with onboard ECUs and all sorts of other bits that have to have a renault computer plugged in.

I'm afraid renault aren't the best cars for reliability..
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Unfortunately Coil spring breakage is a very commomn problem these days in any make of car.

Not sure is it because they are made differenly today or the atrocious state of our roads we also do considerably higher miles than we did in the past.

I personally would not drive a car with a brocken coil spring, What happens if you have to do an emergency stop, You are putting yourself in danger plus other road users.

Your conditions of insurance quite clearly states that you will keep the car in a road worthy condition, as ia brocken spring is an MOT failure ..........

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