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Originally Posted by delta1066 View Post
I remember looking at it the day after to see how it would affect my safrane. My tax goes up 5 as its pre 2001.

So whats the problem? - I agree the tax increase is a boner but that is for newer cars to 'encourage' them to be made greener.
Will you have the same opinion next year when the Governmant decides to use the current VED rates for all cars registered after 1990 and your Saffy will cost you 400 per year?
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Why not just add the cost to the fuel and do away with the current system - look at the savings to be made by closing a government department alone. Also it would be a much fairer system - the bigger your engine and the more miles you do - the more you pay - the fewer miles the less you pay. Let the oil companies collect after all they can afford to after the recent profits they've made
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Originally Posted by delta1066 View Post
I drive 450 miles per week. Any normal 10 year old car simply cannot cope with this huge demand and will require fixing almost monthly. The megane certainly couldn't handle it hence the HG failure. I had to hunt very hard to find a decent car for a cheap price which would be almost as reliable as a newer car - hence my choice to get a safrane. Yes its old but it is powered by volvo and almost built like a tank. For the miles I drive every month just to earn my crust of bread it was the very best car I could find for low price and to be honest, I can't even afford it comfortably - I'm stretching myself to keep it.
I can't afford a new car mate and I have got a 1998 Megane, same as you as you can see. I am in the armed forces and do 30-32000miles a year which equates to about 600miles a week!! I still have signed this because they won't stop, like it was said above, what will you do when they take the banding restriction off for Pre-2001 cars? We will all be screwed then.

It is a total joke, the Government are just sqeezing as much out of us until they push us over the line. If they don't stop it is going to get to the point when everyone in the country will march on Downing street and protest, no-one will work because it won't be worth it. If everyone refused to work for just 1 day, or didn't buy petrol for 1 day(that doesn't mean fill up the day before as that will defeat the object) then the Governent would HAVE to do something as it will make them lose so much money.
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i agree that removing old cars from the road is one way to reduce the amount the CO2 of cars, but then more, more modern cars would have to be built to accomodate for this, and that is enviromentally backwards, as it requires much more energy to produce a new car, than it does to keep an older car going.

the real problem with any car is that the design of the internal combustion engine hasnt changed for over 100 years. just the bits that go round it and make it work have been constantly changing to make them more powerful and economical.

cars will only become more enviromentally freindly when a new type of engine or a cleaner/different fuel is used.

for example a small nuclear reactor

  • it would be an incredibally economical car, as it may never need to be refulled for the entirety of its life regardless of how many miles it does.
  • it would give hardly any emmissions, other than the odd bit of steam

  • when it comes to scrapping the car, nearly all of the engine would be of absoultly no use as it would be contaminated with radiation
  • the reactor would be very heavy due to the amount of sheilding that it would require, usually a dense metal such as lead, but it would not stop all gamma waves
  • an accident would be disasterous if the engine cracked and leaked (chernobyl anyone?)

i know that is not viable, just an example. and sorry for the rant

oh and yes, i have signed the petition
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