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Personaly i wouldnt put anyone in the rear seats we have the zafira at work and i had to travel in the back seat once, and once only! , when sat at the traffic lights a lorry was sat behind us and the grill being a couple of feat away from mi bold napper was very un'nerving to say the least.
plus my knees were under my chin .


Yep I agree, I would only put someone in the rear set of seats on a Grand Scenic for very short journeys.

If you require to transport people on a regular basis and over long journeys get a proper 7 seater in my opinion one with a proper seat
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Yep I agree, I would only put someone in the rear set of seats on a Grand Scenic for very short journeys.

If you require to transport people on a regular basis and over long journeys get a proper 7 seater in my opinion one with a proper seat
We had an Alhambra which had a compliment of seven full sized seats, and I did travel sitting in the rear ones leaving my head no more than about 10 inches from the rear screen, well within the crumple zone. I would never put my kids right in the back and I would avoid travelling in the 3rd row of seats in any car given a choice.
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Good morning folks.

I have a question I would like your opinion on. I have a 52 plate Scenic II fidji with which we are very happy, it has never let us down..... bar the starter motor but that was fixed under warranty. It does everything it says on the tin and is, in my opinion, the perfect family car. Could do with more power and better mpg but I'm sure thats the case with everyones car. We had no intention of changing and are still paying finance on it after two years of ownership.

The thing is, the dealer (Arnold Clark - Dundee, and before anyone starts on Arnold Clark I must say we've had generally good service and I can't complain about this branch) where we bought the car was on the phone the other day asking how we were getting on with it, was honest and told him we loved it. He then suggested they had a large number of 1.6 petrol 05 plate Grand Scenics, any one of which he could supply for the same finance payments we are curently paying, of course the period would be extended. Now the new car looks great and seven seats would be an advantage with the kids pals, the extra boot space would be handy for the camping and all that....

But, we don't need a new car and I'm happy with the current one. On the other hand the current one has about 70k due the timing belt and other minor service stuff, the new one has less than 20k, Dynamique spec, choice of colours....

Arnold is obviously desperate to shift these cars which I guess have been returned from three year finance deals.

Theres the dilema. What do you do?
Don't do it!! I had a 2000 Alize which i was very happy with, however traded up for the 7 seats. What a mistake-2 months or so into ownership & 800 spent extra on a motor that cost me 7,500 to start with!
The 1.6 is under powered & the VVT engine is rubbish & costly! Can't give an oinion on the diesels-I've read conflicting opinions on here as to how good/bad they are.
The irony is I gave my dad my old Scenic & its just sailed through its latest MOT!
Hope you haven't commited to one yet.
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I've just upgraded the better half's car from a 02 Dynamique to a 05 Grand Scenic Dynamique. Both of these cars are ex-Motability.

In my opinion a benefit of ex-motability is the oppurtunity to purchase a 3 year old car with ridiculously low mileage. In both case the cars are/were 3 years old with <8000 miles. Both were fully serviced/maintained and were just like new cars to drive - all tight and quiet etc.

We did much better with the Scenic 02 plate than the 05. Whilst both Dynamique spec, the level of trim and extras are very different. No leather, climate control, cool box/centre console etc. In my opinion the 02 plate is a better build vehicle. The auto handbrake is going to get broken - its too tempting to let the brake auto release all the time and this is going to stress the brake system and eventually cause it to fail.

In both cases the cars were very clean with no signs of use of the pasenger seats. I can recommend Motability providing you choose the right vehicle. In hindsight I'd wish I given more time to finding the right spec vehicle. The diesel's are much more fun to drive and a higher spec with climate and auto locking/unlocking rather than the stupid key thing you have to insert in the dash etc. However, the other half likes ithe car - so I should restrain! Fo carrrying the kids around and junk to the car boots etc its a good car.

Reason for change is 26k a year mileage and the auto box has caused at least two frightening dropouts in the fast lane of motorways. Needless to say the 05 is a manual.

I'd be interested to know the common failure modes of the Grand Scenic? The 02 suffered ignition coil failures and dodgy autobox - what delights await me on the new one??
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