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Originally Posted by tankface View Post
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What the hells that mean,cant you use your left leg or something O_o
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What the hells that mean,cant you use your left leg or something O_o
Without going into detail about the different variations, the type I have means my left side is quite a bit weaker than my right and so I don't quite have the power in my leg to operate a clutch pedal. I also have co-ordination problems caused by it preventing use of a manual. But hey ho...It's a breeze to drive with a slush :D
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The VW DSG isn't a true auto box in the conventional sense. Its workings are a lot closer to a pair of conventional manual gearboxes, with the real trick being that, while keeping the current gear engaged, it also has the next higher or next lower one engaged the clutch released. Changes up or down are achieved by releasing the clutch on the current gear and engaging the clutch on the gear being changed to. Odd numbered gears are controlled by one clutch and even numbered ones by the other.

Edit: Watched the videos and it tells you all that. I'll shut up now

The only conventional auto I've ever owned was the Audi. Being a 1979 model, it was the old-fashioned three speed variety, and even though the ratios were quite wide, you were still thrashing it at high speed (5000rpm at 90mph as I recall.)

I do like conventional autos on a normally aspirated petrol engine, but hate them on turbo diesels. I've never driven a turbo petrol with one so I couldn't comment. A TD needs to be revved for a second or so to generate enough power to take off - with a manual transmission, you can control how this is delivered with the clutch. On an auto box, you just have to get used to flooring the gas pedal about a second before you actually want to start moving.
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The DSG (albeit a much faster change version) was developed by F1 a number of years ago, but most if not all the teams that tried it dropped it. It was intended to decrease time to change gear, but in the case of the F1 boxes it didn't make that much difference (they only take 1/25,000th of a second anyway) but it did add weight and complexity.
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Originally Posted by Murphy245 View Post
So for people who have autos why did you buy them
I wasn't really bothered to be honest. I just had a run of bad luck with 2 old cheap cars and their engines being unreliable (Megane head gasket and fiat bravo engine seized).

Went on ebay looking for another megane and accidentally stumbled accross the Safrane - The lagunas big brother. I liked the description of it so had a look on youtube for a video of one and found this:

Being a wild gadget fan I fell in love with it instantly. It also uses a Volvo engine - which I instantly knew I wanted as Volvo engines are so reliable and I'd had such a bad run of luck. I've got to admit I was never a real admirer of automatics but then I found a 2ltr safrane at a local dealer and test drove it. It was wonderful (the car itself was going mouldy inside but the ride was stunningly smooth). That was it - I had to have one.

Got the Safrane QuestorX eventually (after hunting for a safrane for a long time) and I've loved it ever since. I wouldn't say I intentionally wanted an auto but now I've experienced it I certainly do enjoy it - especially with stop-start journeys.

Of course now my knees have recently started to play up at the ripe old age of 26 it makes it even easier not having to use the clutch with my left knee which is currently agony!

Must be said autos do make life a lot easier and you can concentrate on driving a lot easier.

Would I prefer an auto for my next car? - Yes without a doubt... but to be honest I'm only interested in (in order of preference) another Safrane, Volvo or Japanese. That isn't to say I would refuse a manual car but I have now been converted.
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