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post #26 of 35 (permalink) Old 31st July 2008
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The trouble is,the rules were brought in to help stop people making dodgy plates for dodgy cars,but as you say,you'll never stop it completely.The idea was to give the plates some sort of traceability,and to some extent that has worked.I'm not sure how anyone gets on if a car of the same make/colour/model and with their own (but cloned) number plate on it is caught on a speed camera though.I guess it's up to them to prove they weren't in that area at that time,but it would prove difficult.Trouble is,someone can just as easily walk down the street and copy a number plate rather than looking at cars on the internet.

I do agree 100% that trailers,horseboxes,caravans and the like should have a yearly safety test.I too see some pretty shocking sites of things that are obviously not safe being pulled along our roads.An HGV trailer needs to have a safety certicate,so why not any other trailer.I know the size is different,but an unsafe caravan can still lead to a serious,if not fatal accident.

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Good point lag I hadn't actually thought about the cloned car, speed camera thing! A minefield i think is the best way to describe it all perhaps And yes a compulsory safety check at the very least should be done on all towed vehicles. I saw a green caravan today on the motorway, it wasn't green when it left the factory I bet! Its been stood under a tree for decades, the lights didn't work (I bet the brakes didn't either) well it was a shed. Yet that is perfectly legal to be on the road?!

EDIT IIRC it didn't have a number plate of any kind on it either

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True, but they (much) were cheaper... Unlikely that cloning my car would do them much good as there are not that many around too. A much newer car though I probably wouldn't do it that way Though thats probably me being silly

I had "show" plates on the Megane made up for a tenner the pair though they were not legal (though they looked like they were ) They had the same dealer address and postcode on (the custom text at the bottom) that the originals had though they were missing the BS "BS"

Remember though theres nothing stopping your "trusted local supplier" cloning your car, a quick photocopy of the docs maybe? And while they're at it they could clone your debit/credit card and steal all your money too, you're not safe doing anything, anywhere anytime these days

Dealing with a reputable source is one thing but sending all your car/driving licence/credit card details off to some unknown ebay source who could be just working from a shed/bedroom etc to my mind is crazy.

They would gain far more info from the supplied details than just clocking a car passing in the high street.

With all this camera recognition of vehilcles ( Speed cameras/congestion charging etc ) the powers that be wan't Regs to be easily readable, why the delay in making it an MOT failure I'm not sure.

The Police/Traffic commisioners have the power to stop and remove from the road any trailer/caravan that they would deem unsafe, But i agree all trailers/caravans etc should have an official annual road worthyness test/check .

Farmers are another source of unsafe trailers, A fast trac unit can do about 50 mph on the road yet trailers are often cobbled together from many souces with a large load and trailer has never ever being tested/rated

There are a great deal of responsible caravaners who are fastidious in their vans upkeep and safety but there are many who should never be allowed on the road

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Originally Posted by VelSatisfied View Post
All good advice given.

A couple of tips for you once you have your replacements;

Carefully remove the old plates and mount them over the new ones (keeping the plastic protective film on them).

Fix them in place with masking tape (or similar), and using the existing holes, drill through the new plates.

You probably already know this (sorry if I'm going over old ground), but its surprising how many don't (as they've never needed to).

and a couple of dabs of no more nails to the back of the plate before i had mine stolen


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I think the police will get harder on non BS number plates now as ANPR is used more widely.

The font etc is too make it easier for ANPR cameras after all
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