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Re: Clio 2 1.5 DCI - high mileage - worth spending money on?

I've just read through this thread and the only other point I can add is that if you choose to take on the repairs yourself:-

a) are you able to work somewhere safely off-road and on level ground
b) all jobs take much longer to do than you think
c) consider where the nearest spares shop is ... there's often something else you need eg penetrating oil for the corroded nut that won't undo or a new nut/washer/spring etc etc because the old ones just pinged off and rolled away.
d) have you mates willing to help
e) are you happy to not have the car to use for a couple of days because you're still halfway through a job

Many of us (me included) end up buying a lemon as our first car (and sometimes our 8th & 9th cars ). In your shoes I would be inclined to buy another car ... as VS has shown there are better cars available for less than the cost of repairs to your car. Put is down to experience. Also with welding once rust has got hold of the car you'll find more areas which need patching year after year, especially if your car has been on salty sand/sea air etc after the previous 'surfing' owner.
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Re: Clio 2 1.5 DCI - high mileage - worth spending money on?

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The list wouldn't bother me, nothing major and most of cost is labour.
Get them to quote for the welding and learn how to sort the rest.
Plenty on here can help with advice.

What does bother me is the starting issue.
Could be simple, needing an EGR clean, possible glow plugs (why oh why do garages always point to these on starting issues with DCIs), filter change.
May be a leak on the fuel inlet lines that needs tracking down and fixing.
May be indicative of something more major like pump breaking up or injectors leaking.

That I would sort or at least find out about before spending out on it.

Cheap cars are great lessons and you can use it too learn on without worrying too much about wrecking something expensive.
You know the maddest thing ever, as you mention glow plugs....?

My dci was very hard to start for a few days a few months back. Long story short. Bought 4 glow plugs off eBay for 17, fitted them. Bought a leak off kit for 25 on eBay , tested with it & no issues found.

Never a problem starting since. Wierd.
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Re: Clio 2 1.5 DCI - high mileage - worth spending money on?

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You know the maddest thing ever, as you mention glow plugs....?

My dci was very hard to start for a few days a few months back. Long story short. Bought 4 glow plugs off eBay for 17, fitted them. Bought a leak off kit for 25 on eBay , tested with it & no issues found.

Never a problem starting since. Wierd.
In general terms, old style diesels with indirect, pump timed and the like injection, needed glow plugs to start when cold. Without that concentrated heat, they was bu55ers.
DCIs generally do not need glow plugs to start unless temperature is down around zero. Higher injection pressures, better compression, better atomisation of fuel all contribute to better starting.
They only operate at full wack for a few seconds, then either turn down or off. Main purpose now is emissions control as a cold engine does not burn fuel as efficiently as a hot one.
If an engine is getting old, maybe lost a little compression, they still help starting so is worth swapping for the cost they are. Or at least checking.

My gripe is that many garages still stick to the "not starting, swap glow plugs" from older days.
By the time they have included labour costs it costs the motorist a lot more then 17 quid from ebay and often does not solve the problem.
To me it is same as the mandatory diagnostic charged by dealers. Often unneeded but "must be done"
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Re: Clio 2 1.5 DCI - high mileage - worth spending money on?

I hear ya dd. I haven't a clue about cars, only really basic stuff.

Renault fault scanned it - and wanted permission to start checking for swarf. Permission denied. But changing the glow plugs seemed to have worked. I couldn't believe it myself as I had been reading quite a bit about dcis not starting.

I understand fully the expense from a garage & as you say it wouldn't be 17
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