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VED rises for Motorbikes!!!

Ok I know this isn't a biking forum but I know we have a few bikers on here.

I dunno if it's been mentioned on here before but just incase I'm gonna post!

I've just been on GB Biker and found this post relating to road tax for bikes. Now what I didn't know is that my tax for my 125cc Suzie will be doubling next year from £15 pa in 2008 to around £33 pa in 2009. Now this is just madness

Why is it a DCi Clio will be tax exempt as it emits less than 100g/km of CO2, but my 125cc commuter which emits considerably less CO2 will be charged at over £30 a year

Anyways there is a petition floating about and here are the details. I know these online petitions rarely make a difference but it's nice knowing I've put my name to something that I don't like and spreading the word. Rather than bending over and taking another royal shafting from Darling, Brown and their chums.

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Changes to the law mean cars emitting less than 100g of CO2 per kilometer travelled would be exempt from paying Vehicle Excise Duty (road tax), while motorcycles are still required to pay.

This was outlined by your Chancellor Alistair Darling in his first budget last week, under the auspices of rewarding motorists for driving ‘green’ vehicles.

Despite Darling’s aim, the rate of road tax paid by motorcyclists is set to double in 2009, with the annual charge for a typical 125cc commuter bike set to grow from £15 per year at present, to £33 in 2009.

This makes a nonsense of the revised rates of vehicle excise duty, as motorcycles tend to emit less CO2 and use less fuel than cars, with the average CO2 output from motorcycles at 110g/km.

So why do those who ride greener two wheeled vehicles, use less road space and do not contribute to congestion get penalised whilst 4 wheel motorist whose vehicles use under 100g/km are exempt from road tax .... makes a mockery of your plans
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I've signed Mikey !

A problem well stated is a problem half solved !
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I think you will find a DCi Clio will be £30 as it emits
just over the magic 100 g/km but it's still a total nonsense
to charge so much for a 125, it costs me about twice
as much to tax my 650cc bike as it does to tax my Clio.
I think the congestion charge in London and the coming
of others will make bikes and scooters more popular and
this is the governments way of clawing money back.
I have already signed.

Anyone know what bigger bikes will cost? the 650 could
end up costing more than a 4x4 at that rate, bikes are
thought of as a hobby not a method of transport in this
country and are taxed as such.

Who would design a vehicle that falls over when you stop?

If you find a fix for your problem please let us know it will help others.
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Nice one Dave & Ralph.

Not sure what it's going to be on the bigger bikes. I will try to find out and post my findings. Bit of a bugger as I wanted to move up to a bigger bike next year.

The most logical thing to do would encourage the use of bikes rather than cars as transport. Imagine how much easier it would be to get about with more space on the roads!
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Lets not be under any illusion about 'greeness' lads.

Its all about money.

The reason that cars will be charged less (or not at all) is because look how much revenue the govt makes from the sale of these (usually even more expensive models).

You have your VAT, first registration fee, etc - plus you will end up spending more on fuel, parts, servicing (again, more duty & VAT levied there), compared with a bike.

There has also been a shift from car to bike useage/ownership which is costing the govt tax revenue.

At the end of the day, the govt is too busy spending the money we are forced to give them on bailing out banks & propping up major businesses (that are largely the authors of their own misfortune), to worry about just how logical or coherent their policies make.

I fully expect the free VED for pre-1973 cars to be the next casualty - it would seem that no-one is safe these days from being mugged in their own home.


This job should never be complete - the day I think I've done it all, is the day I resign.

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