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Question Stolen Lag II ? - ever happened ?

Hi all,

Has anyone ever had their Laguna 2 stolen without a key.. as in hot wired... ? (not break in and nick the keys - but a classic hot wire)

Just wondering how secure the key card system is ?


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I think as far as starting the car the Laguna fares very well in the various What Car type tests. It can be broken into quite easily apparently but not driven away!

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It's possible to defeat a transponder immobiliser, but very tricky to do. In the case of the Laguna II, you'd probably have to come equipped with a pre-programmed key and ECU and possibly a UCH , and then you'd have to fit them to the car. That's a bit more involved than just using brute force to break the steering lock and then shorting out the connections on the ignition barrel.

For a car like the Lag II, it's not practically worthwhile taking the effort to steal one. If you have something really expensive or really special, then the crooks would normally tow it or stick it on the back of a truck and replace the appropriate components at their leisure.

For mainstream cars, the trick these days is to steal the keys, mainly by 'hooking' though the letterbox (never leave your keys in the hall) or breaking into the house and finding them. It's not unknown for car keys to be stolen from gym lockers etc. and the owner's car subsequently stolen.

This goes to show how difficult it is to steal a modern car without having the keys - it now makes far more sense to steal the keys.
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Interesting topic of conversation..

Laguna II - Anti-intrusion and immobiliser systems Info..
The Laguna II benefits from the latest developments in terms of anti-intrusion and anti-theft security. The driver’s door lock is equipped with a free-rotating barrel protected by a cover. All the mechanisms are protected by casings and operation is by cable, which makes any attempt at « hooking » much more difficult. The computer beneath the bonnet is also protected. Before each engine starting authorisation, the card and the reader interrogate each other. Only when the first interrogation of the card has received a correct response is the steering column unlocked and permission to start given. The identification code carried on the card is a rolling code and the electrically operated steering column latch is also coded. A strengthening plate prevents direct mechanical attack on the steering column. Because of its geometry and whatever the position of the steering wheel, the latch always engages in a recess to lock the steering column. A declutching system prevents any attempt to break off the latch by applying a high torque to the steering wheel.

Hopefully that adds some explanation to the reasoning behind the theory but I too wonder if tests have been carried out and can be found on the net or in an old motoring mag by anyone ?

The next addition to the Lag II spec list should be (anti scratch or anti key paint laquer !! Right ??

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