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possible cause of electrical shut off delay

Originally Posted by twillco View Post
Thanks for the email selwonk. just the other day, i was sat in my wifes scenic waiting at school for my daughter, when i felt the need to adjust my mirrors. after doing so i realised that the key was in the off position. As I don't drive it that often, i've never noticed this before, and it seemed a little strange that they were still live with the ignition off, so i had a play with them and found out they still worked with the key completely out. Then I thought I'd try the other electrics with the key out, and discovered that the drivers window would sometimes work with the key out. could this be on the same fuse or related to the mirrors, and why just the drivers window.

I'm not too happy about this and I hope fireball scenic assisted by watchdog etc. can force renault into issuing a recall. I'll sign a petition if there is one to sign.

I'm also concerned about the insurance issue after reading codeye's post. " Any mechanical, electrical, electronic, computer or computer software breakdowns, failures, faults or breakages.". Surely that refers to the component itself failing, Surely you are covered against fire though even if it is caused by a fault/failure, or maybe not it seems. I don't fancy reading my policy booklet though.

Reminds me of a problem i had with my house insurance. Wife left grill on by accident. went out 1/2 hour. came back. kitchen on fire. Extinguished fire. Insurance company said. No accidental damage on policy. covered against fire but not accidental damage. Hmmmm? must be covered against deliberate fire then!!. Now have accidental damage on policy.
All my fault for having bacon butties for brekkie. No bacon in fridge when she went to it - after switching grill on.

erm, i am by no means a mechanic but , i was wondering if maybe the reason your mirrors and drv side window work with no keys in the ignition ( after removal ) may be due to the time delay , my drv window camn still be operated after the ignition is turned off and the key removed , much the same with my mirrors , eg they can be operated without the key in the ignition ?

however ,...if i get out of the car ,...shut the door then get back in again ,......i cant operate the window and or the mirrors .......( ive allways put this down to a time delay, eg if ive left my window open , and removed the keys , it enables me to secure the vehicle without re using the ignition.

im more likely wrong , but if im not then i hope i helped .

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