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Originally Posted by Alan Croves View Post
they cars became to reliable and they profits dropped and they dealerships started to complain, (I don't recall Renault - or any French car for that matter, ever winning customer satisfaction surveys)

the most basic of jobs seem to require you to (refer to your local dealer) or (you will require Renault tool so and so) plus you have to strip half the car before you start on the smallest of jobs.
(What car manufacturer doesn't? As soon as ECU's became fitted - the days of roadside maintenance with the socket set became a thing of the past)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not blindly defending the brand - nor am I trivialising your experience with your car (my first reply was intended as tongue in cheek). But in all honesty, built-in obsolescence has been around for many decades - it used to be corrosion which would scrap a car, nowadays, its failure & replacement of expensive electronics which is most likely to sentence a car to the grave.

All cars have problems, coil pack issues are not limited to Renaults (for example), but if you read all the postings on owner websites - you would quickly adopt a very jaded view of all things Renault (or whatever brand you care to name).

If anything, the manufacturer's recognition that quality has to be improved should be given some positive reaction, rather than simply lambasted.


This job should never be complete - the day I think I've done it all, is the day I resign.

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