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Just a little return of information.

If you are fitting custom speakers to your Clio (though I suspect all Renaults) using the original wiring the speaker phase can be found by looking down into the original speaker's connection (on the speaker, not the plug, thanks renault). You will see the + engraved into the plastic. If you ignore this and/or don't understand what speaker phase is or how it will effect your sound or if you don't notice then you pretty much deserve the sound you get.

From memory the + on the speaker connects to the wire beside the clip of the original plug.

If you intend to keep your speakers and put the originals back when you sell the car, simply push the wires for your new speakers down into the Renault plug and wrap the thing carefully in heavy sticking tape. DONT use insulating tape it has as much grip as a Clio on ice. Use Gaffa tape or duct tape. Make sure no stray strands of wire are left out that didn't make it down into the plug slots.

Other info for people following behind me....

* The front and rear door speaker covers pull off from the bottom first. There is a little nook for a screwdriver. Once the bottom is released just pull it away from the door firmly. The are fitted using button like studs that clip into the door plastic trim. The top fittings are tabs that slide up into deep notchs! Do don't try and pull them OUT, let the card slide down. Usually this is easy to determine once all the fitting studs are pulled out. The rear door cards for the speakers are quite large and include the front part of the rear cup holders/cubby holes.

* The standard Pioneer, Sony and Kenwood 13cm speakers fit the stock speaker mounts fine.

* If like me you had trouble with the original screws.
1. Use an allen/hex key if you can't find a hex head screwdriver bit. A star screwdriver or terminal driver will work, but if the screws are very hard to turn and they were for me, you will chew up the screws AND the screwdriver.
2. DONT put the original screws back in. The grub screws that came with the speakers are much better as the won't have any tarnish or corrosion and will turn much easier, they will also have normal deep + screwdriver fitting.

* If you want bass, buy some of that rubber mounting stuff that Kenwood speakers come with and use it to seal the speaker in the mount and the card back on to the door to stop the door cards rattling.

Out of interest, if you delibrately wire you speakers out of phase in various ways, it will provide you with an easy way to find rattles around the speakers. The phase cancelation results in greatly deadened bass and whispy trebble and greatly reduced volume, but the speakers are still working really hard, so the panels will still rattle etc.

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2002 Renault Clio 1.2 Dynamique (NI Reg), 2007 Kawasaki KLE 500

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