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#1 ·
I don't think MS have confirmed this yet, it's looking like

Windows 10 will be a free download to anyone already using Windows (7) (8) & (8.1)

When it's eventually released make sure you read the T&Cs first.

You need to know if installing Win 10 over your existing OS will kill off your prior serial number, If it does, there may be no way to get back to your previous version, in the event that you dislike Win 10.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/operating-sy...0-release-date-latest-news-features-and-price
 
#2 ·
As far as I know Microsoft did announce that this will be a free upgrade for consumers at their conference, so I would imagine it's a definite. That being said, the offer is only available for the first year after Windows 10's release, after that upgrades will have to be paid for, so make sure everyone upgrades any machines that want upgrading in the first year!
 
#5 ·
I'm running the preview on my dell laptop. It has 4gb ram and 1st gen i3 processor. So far its a good bit slower than the win7 ultimate that was on it.
I've run the preview too, but I can't compare the speed on a like for like basis. Win 7 Pro is on a SSD & boots after POST in around 12 seconds, whereas I tried Win 10 preview on a spinning disk, with obvious results :yawn:

TBH I liked what I saw, other than the :confused: "Tiles" / or "Apps"

But having said that, is it worth changing for the sake of change? I most certainly wouldn't do that, if I'd got to pay.

Probably like most I need to find out what it's going to do, better if anything. :idunno: :think:
 
#6 ·
I have Win10 beta running on a Dell Lappy from a spare hard drive (so I can still revert to Win 7)
AFAIK one can remove 10 & revert to ones old OS, but being MS I don't trust that to happen seamlessly.
It's working well, main gripes are:-
One can only log into Win10 with an MS email address PITA.
No Windows Media Centre (not player) which I use in the caravan to watch telly.
Tiles.......... only useful on a touch screen which I don't have.
Conclusion:-
Probably a good OS on new kit with which it will be supplied. But No better for older kit for which Win 7 is better suited.
 
#13 ·
It looks like Microshaft made a real big boo-boo when then launched Windows 8 although the Windows 8.1 was an improvement. There has been little or no take up by the business sector many who have openly said if MS don't get their act together they'll be going elsewhere. Plus as an operating system they attempted to make it all things to all users (PC's, Laptops, Phones , etc) and it really never suited all by the looks of it.
Businesses have opted to stay with Windows 7 until either a comparable system is available or they are forced elsewhere.

At the present they have said Windows 10 will be offered free but I suspect ther'll be a sting in the tail.
Lets be honest can you really see MS ironing out all the bugs within one year of launch but any necessary updates are likely to come at a cost after the year.

I run W7 on my desktop but W8.1 on my laptop and I prefer W7. I much prefer W7 all day long.
 
#15 ·
Yeh the way Microsoft works needs to change. Users are just not willing to pay to upgrade their operating system. Look at other operating systems iOS and android. They don't ask you to fork out when they update there software. And the way windows updated was so cumbersome. Downloading iso and burning them to disk or bootable USB was far beyond most of its users. This time it's incorporated into the windows update feature which should make the update process a hell of a lot easier for the novice. Which is the reason most folk stick with the operating system that shipped with there PC.
 
#16 ·
The way windows updated was so cumbersome. Downloading iso and burning them to disk or bootable USB was far beyond most of its users.

What problems with updates? I don't recall problems with updates :confused:

The only updates in .iso files that I've seen are redundant e.g when the version of Windows is past it's sell by date.

Windows SP3 being one example, I use Nero Burning to extract the file's in there to CD or whatever, but in fairness it's not difficult. :idunno:
 
#17 ·
That's what I mean. Upgrading from say windows xp to windows 7. I didn't mean the general windows updates.

It may be easy for anyone with a basic knowledge. But I rekon most of the customers who buy a laptop never change from the version of windows it originally came with.

Now that's not good if your Microsoft and the only way people use your your new product is if they buy a new PC or laptop.
 
#20 ·
FREE FREE!!! Microsoft have only recently heard of free. :d

Don't mention the word Free on your CV if you're applying for a job with MS.

In fairness there are some limiting factor's a friends laptop PC is still running Win XP, simply because it doesn't have the Guts to run anything else other than maybe some flavours of Ubuntu & I don't think for one moment that she would ever be happy running that.

Albeit she's young, she's very much PC software challenged. :rofl: & if she saw this post she would agree. :d
 
#22 ·
I was previously told that my desktop PC is to old to have windows10..but out of the blue there it was again in some update I received this morning and before I realised it I had clicked all the options and a down load had started and its still going 3 hours since and counting..:eek: how long is this going to go on for..:idunno: :popcorn:
 
#25 ·
My youngest boy reserved it and when they said down load I tried it but it was refused down to what they said was an equipment requirement [mine not suitable ] only wish i could get shot of that windows symbol on the task bar..did get shot once but the bl00dy thing came back..:mad:
 
#26 ·
You can stop it mate, too late once it's downloading though :(

If you do revert back to 7 or whatever, in control panel search MS updates for KB3068708.

Once done, go to Windows update & let it do search, if KB3068708 is found right click it & tell MS to forget this update.

That's what stopped it on mine ;)
 
#30 ·
You have to ask yourself as to why Windows 10 is free. It would appear the prime reason is to gather data on all its users. I bought the September issue of a magazine called "Web User" which points out many advantages and pitfalls of upgrading to Windows 10. It also gives tips on how to adjust seting to minimise the collection of data. On reading the article I am still convinced NOT to upgrade until I have to. I am not saying other versions of Windows don't collect data but version 10 seems to be hell-bent on doing so.

Sadly the "Web User" magazine is only available by paying at a cost of £2-00 but in my opinion definitely worth the few quid spent.
 
#32 ·
For what it's worth I've just got a new notebook with Windows 10 on it.

Previous notebook runs Vista but is 32-bit, I use iTunes a lot and the latest version of iTunes is now 64-bit, so of course it wouldn't update anymore.

This was OK for a few weeks until the last time I synced my iPhone with it (As I would normally do) and in the process got an updated OS for iPhone.

When iPhone rebooted it then says "can't connect to iTunes, it's too old" !

There are a few other things as well, for example I've been using Firefox for a few months as Internet Explorer stopped updating past version 9 point something. Then Google maps was all redesigned, which won't work in IE9, does in Firefox BUT quickly runs out of memory until the street view scenes go black.

I knew that a new machine was on the cards sooner or later, so finally bit the bullet, and also got a new wireless router which is brilliant, no more annoying cables and the Vista machine and the iPhone can use it as well!

Bottom line is the Vista machine is/was a 2007 model, in the computer world that makes it ancient.

Getting used to Win10, much of it I was pleased to see is much like Vista. I've also seen systems settings windows that look like they haven't changed since Windows 95.

I have a number of old programs (meaning, 20 years old), and got them to run, although the installation set-up refused to work. Was easy to et around though, as nearly all the program files are in one directory, simply a case of copying the folder from Vista onto Win10. There's a very few system files under Windows foldlers, and turns out Win10 has got most of them already, so didn't take long to get them running. Ther program compatibility wizard seems quite sophisitcated so a case of let then chew on it a bit and figure out what 'shell' to run it in, which can go back to XP.

Fortunately these old progs are 32-bit so the OS can run them.

Generally it's all pretty slick, as it has a 2-core Intel i5 CPU which can run 4 threads simultaneously.

Still using Firefox as I like its add-ons and stuff, but coming with Win10 of course I also got MS Edge AND IE11.

It also has a PDF print-to-file driver, which is well handy as on previous machines I installed Docudesk print2PDF to do it. (I use it for work generating order forms and invoices that I can then send by fax or email.)

Windows 10 Mail on the face of it seems totally pants, UNTIL you realise, as I did, that you need to create an email account at outlook.com, THEN it all makes sense because THAT is where you can make new folders, routing rules and spam filters, and do all the other maintenance type stuff, using a web browser, because Win10 Mail is just a 'Window' onto your outlook email account, and with seriously reduced functionality compared to using the web pages direct.

If you have another web based email account that can do that and be accessed by Win10 Mail then fine, my problem was my primary email account is my ISP's, which unfortunately is totally non-editable online.
 
#33 ·
my wife insisted that we "update" to windows 10 despite my protests that it had only been released for 3 days and if we left it for a few months most problems should be ironed out.
during a windows 10 update it continually spooled and crashed...me not happy, wife slightly sheepish. it will be done at some point but someone gave me a 160GB SSD which i'm itching to use
 
#38 ·
A old thread but why start another,
anyone else had problems with there laptop charging after the last two
Windoze 10 updates?
 
#39 ·
Not noticed owt yet, only just done the Dell & swmbo's Toshiba.
More worried about Microsoft Charging :crying2:
 
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