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Mine had the rubber insulator/grommet on the edge of the box, but had still worn away the insulation on two cables. Took the box apart, wrapped plenty of insulation tape around the bare wires (the wire itself wasn't badly chafed) then cut a piece of 3mm silicone sheet to fit (basically a square that just went into the box, with a tang on the left side to provide further rubbing-resistance on the repair) and refitted the box top.
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I've just had a look at the black box in my car and it is very loose. The lid just came off in my hand! Was wondering how I should go about getting the rest of the box off, or at least out of the way enough to be able to wrap insulating tape all the way around the wires? Cos at the moment the box is in the way and I can't get to the bottom of them.
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Hi Laura44

You can't really remove the base of the black box even though it's loose.

If you take the lid off and unplug the scart-like plug that's inside the box. It's pretty stiff and you wont move it very far but it should be enough to insulate the bottom of the wires.

I also wrapped a piece of pipe lagging foam around the wiring at the point where it entered the box to stop the edge cutting into the wires.

Pack it out fully and you should stop the box from rattling when the lid is on securely.

**Be careful when you remove the plug not to bend any of the pins 'cos if you do you may need to replace the ECU !!!
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Re the loose black box,

I reported this to VOSA after it cut out on me on the motorway (SCARY!)

They never looked at my car but asked Renault to carry out there own investigation (Turkeys voting for christmas?!)

VOSA recently got back to me saying the response from Renault means there is insufficient evidence to warrant any action and that this defect was NOT attributable to a design or construction deficiency nor is it likley to cause significant risk, injury or death.

Furthermore they have NO RECORD of similar reports on their databases!

-This means the Renault dealers will continue to turn a blind eye to this defect and continue to hook your car up to their computer (for a fee), tell you its the throttle potentiometer that will need replacing (for a fee) and when that doesn't work you'll need a new wiring loom/ ECU or both (for a fee!)

Renault were aware of this problem and modified the black box to add a rubber grommet to it - this clearly hasn't worked.

Rather than fleecing already unhappy customers why can't Renault issue an advisory notice to dealers that this model is prone to this problem? Cheap and easy solution (maybe that why they don't do it - new ECU 's are much more lucrative!!)

I am appealing this decision as it clearly isn't a one-off and definatley is a risk of injury.

I would ask that ALL people who have had this problem contact VOSA to report it.
Head it: Renault Clio - Fuel injection computer inviolability casing loose on engine causing the wiring loom to abrade against the inviolability cover

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If you take the lid off and unplug the scart-like plug that's inside the box. It's pretty stiff and you wont move it very far but it should be enough to insulate the bottom of the wires.
I managed to re-insulate mine by cutting lengths of insulating tape about 3in. long, then making sure they were soft/flexible by gently warming with a hair-dryer.

This allowed them to be wound quite tightly around the affected wires without needing to disturb the ECU plug.
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