: Citroen Xsara Picasso - Buying advice


dave_mezza2006
1st September 2009, 08:20 AM
The wife is looking at changing her car she tells me. She now wants a Citroen Xsara Picasso. (I talked her out of getting a Zafira)

Is there anything to look out for when I go to look at one ? We know to keep away from the 1.6 as its underpowered, so are looking at the 1.8 16v SX as its got all the toys she wants for the money she can afford.

I've looked on the Parkers and Honest John websites and the reviews look good. Well much better than the Zafira thats for sure.

Also does anyone know what interval does the cambelt need changing at ?

Thanks for any input. :)

Govus
1st September 2009, 12:14 PM
[attempting to be humourous]http://robson.m3rlin.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/citroen-xsara-picasso-tunning-3-copy.jpg[/attempting to be humourous]

A Xsara Picasso; why not :d ??
A 16v 1.6 (110 bhp) would also do the job and it's still in production.

dave_mezza2006
1st September 2009, 12:16 PM
Ha. Im quite liking that actually Govus. :devil:

You mean the 1.6 HDi diesel ?

scatz
1st September 2009, 12:19 PM
"Who ate all the pies, who ate all the pies, you fat Xsara, you fat Xsara, you ate all the pies" :rofl:

Can't help with regards to Cirtreons Dave, apart from the fact that you already know what French cars are like so ensure a decent service history and that all the electrics work ;)

dave_mezza2006
1st September 2009, 12:21 PM
:rofl: Yes mate, I now only too well what french cars are like. :rolleyes:

Needless to say I'll be going over it with a fine toothcomb. Plus I'm urging the Mrs to take out an extended warranty on it, just incase !

Govus
1st September 2009, 12:26 PM
You mean the 1.6 HDi diesel ?
No, I mean the gasoline 16v (TU5JP4), which replaced the respective 90bhp 8v (TU5JP) several years ago...
On the other hand the 92bhp diesel engine must be great, with 215Nm of torque at 1.750 rpm :devil: !!

dave_mezza2006
1st September 2009, 12:31 PM
No, I mean the gasoline 16v (TU5JP4), which replaced the respective 90bhp 8v (TU5JP) several years ago...
On the other hand the 92bhp diesel engine must be great, with 215Nm of torque at 1.750 rpm :devil: !!

The cars were looking at / can afford are around the 2001/2002 year of manufacture, so I think the 1.6 was still the 8v then. :(

The diesel looks tempting, but I can see the wifey putting petrol in it sooner or later. :eek:

Lagdti
1st September 2009, 12:43 PM
The HDi 90 is a pretty strong unit,they don't have the dual mass flywheel or the sprung loaded crank pulley like the 110 has and in general this is the only hassle the HDi's give.

The Picasso is a cheap and cheerful MPV,although I would get Mrs.Dave to sit in one before buying one.My Mrs kept on and on about having a people carrier but once she'd sat in one and realised she couldn't see out of them properly and couldn't see the end of the bonnet she instantly went off of the idea.The Picasso is a little odd to drive,the windscreen is a long way from you and with the centre dash readout it makes for an interesting drive.Dashboard reflections on to the windscreen can be a problem too depending on what trim colour and spec you have,a lot of the ones I've worked on have had black felt put across the top of the dash by the owners to stop the reflections.

The suspension and steering etc is based on the 306/ZX/Xsara and is pretty good,but check the rear axles carefully as the bearings in the trailing arms can wear and this can cause the rear wheels to tip in at the top and rub on the inner arch.Second hand rear axles are easy to source and reasonably priced and it's a straight foward job,but it's an added hassle.

Electrical problems with the BSi unit (the PSA equivalent of the UCH on a Renault) aren't uncommon but these can usually be sorted out with a reset (either disconnect the battery or the BSi completely for a few hours).

I'd say a Picasso would be at least as reliable as a comparitive Zafira or Scenic,but I'd say that the Zafira felt better built than the other two.

dave_mezza2006
1st September 2009, 12:48 PM
Cheers Lag. :) Any problems that you know of on the petrol models (1.6 & 1.8) ?

Lagdti
1st September 2009, 12:55 PM
I can't think of any off the top of my head,the 8 valve engine is a little harsh but it is a reliable unit.I would seriously consider an HDi engined one though,it will be a far better bet.Then again,the petrol ones will be cheaper so that may out way the diesel option if your not going to be doing many miles.

dave_mezza2006
1st September 2009, 01:01 PM
She wont be doing many miles in it I imagine. Although the plan is to use it more for holidays / trips out due to the extra room etc... so its a possibility it will do more than her current Punto does.

Thorshammer
1st September 2009, 02:09 PM
Shame you aren't after a diesel. I'm going to sell my Pic which is a 2.0l 2002 HDi SX. I only want 2200 for it and it comes with a private reg.

The MOT is due on it and also the tax, but I'm getting both on it before it is sold (the tax is currently in the disabled class).

dave_mezza2006
1st September 2009, 02:17 PM
Shame you aren't after a diesel. I'm going to sell my Pic which is a 2.0l 2002 HDi SX. I only want 2200 for it and it comes with a private reg.

The MOT is due on it and also the tax, but I'm getting both on it before it is sold (the tax is currently in the disabled class).

Whats the mileage on it mate and where are you in the country ?

Thorshammer
1st September 2009, 02:37 PM
129,000, though I've only done 9000 in it, I think it was used as a delivery car in it's previous life as there were curry stains on the floor, it has been valeted since I got it and the stains are now gone.

I live in Gateshead.

I'm going to get the car serviced before it is sold.

dave_mezza2006
1st September 2009, 02:45 PM
Mileage is more than were looking for on a Picasso and your too far away for me to travel to you mate, sorry.

Thanks though. :)

VelSatisfied
1st September 2009, 04:15 PM
On the plus side, at least you know these cars can take that kind of mileage!

The only caveat (emptor?) I would have with these cars in general, is the state of the bodywork/wheels (and therefore, suspension).

Quite often these cars are bought by people who take a while to adapt to the cars proportions & blind spots (I see/repair loads of dents & scuffs), plus the wheels/tyres take a pounding (and so will the suspension & tracking).

You'll know a good one when you see it.

Thought about one of these? http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/FIAT+DOBLO/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-13-231-240-4294963964-4294967253/advert.action?R=200934340369913&distance=352&postcode=FK5+4FW&channel=CARS&make=FIAT&model=DOBLO&min_pr=&max_pr=2000&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2002&vehicleRegLetter=52

Not the most beautiful cars on the road, but van mechanicals mean its durable & cheap to run.

Happy hunting.

Paul

dave_mezza2006
1st September 2009, 04:21 PM
Cheers Paul.

I dont think we'll be looking just yet as it depends on when the brother in law passes his test - hopefully October / November time. He's buying the wifes current car off her. ;)

:eek: A fiat Doblo.....:eek: I suppose thats one way to stop me driving the car ! :rofl:

VelSatisfied
1st September 2009, 04:26 PM
Or driving like White Van Man...:d

Pat.w
1st September 2009, 05:15 PM
No really advice as such Dave, but in 2000 my dad bought his first Scenic, and his mate bought a Picasso. Both cars were new and they were bought at about the same time.

His mate was thrilled with the Picasso, right up to the point when he got into my dads Scenic. He felt that the Scenic was a much nicer car inside and out, but then it was quite a bit more expensive at the time. Luckily he got quite a good deal on it tho ;)

Lagdti
1st September 2009, 07:27 PM
This isn't easy for me say....but.....I have a fascination with these things.....

http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/_User-folders/vBulletinImg/2009/9/{8F8222E9-05B7-4B37-86F1-D2F015575E96}.jpeg

They are very simple and basic but that is part of their charm.I'd have one of these over a Picasso.

Oh my God....did I say all of that out loud?.:o

Pat.w
1st September 2009, 07:59 PM
:eek: for gods sake Lag, go and have a long lie down :crazy:

Lagdti
1st September 2009, 08:00 PM
I'm sorry.....:o

I don't know what happened there.:o

Pat.w
1st September 2009, 08:06 PM
Go and sit in the naughty corner for a couple of hours :rolleyes:

dave_mezza2006
3rd September 2009, 12:00 PM
I keep changing my mind on which MPV to let the Mrs buy (the internet is a BAD thing :rofl:) , coz it'll be me that gets grief when it goes wrong all the time. In the running at the moment is the Picasso or the Zafira, but I think the Mrs has her heart set on a Picasso.

Now call me mad if you like :rofl:, but Im considering a Scenic . It'll be a petrol one from 99-03. Apart from the tendancy of most Renaults of late to develop into ponds and go through coils, is there anything else drastic that I should be aware of ?

Decisions, decisions. :confused:

VelSatisfied
3rd September 2009, 01:45 PM
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/advert+search/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-14-29-56-240/advert.action?R=200936340972175&distance=166&postcode=FK5+4FW&channel=CARS&make=&model=&min_pr=500&max_pr=3000&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2003&vehicleRegLetter=53
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http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/advert+search/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-14-29-56-240/advert.action?R=200934113922150&distance=321&postcode=FK5+4FW&channel=CARS&make=&model=&min_pr=500&max_pr=3000&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=&vehicleRegLetter=
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/advert+search/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-14-29-56-240/advert.action?R=200934340371317&distance=346&postcode=FK5+4FW&channel=CARS&make=&model=&min_pr=500&max_pr=3000&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2002&vehicleRegLetter=02

Some pretty diverse choices there Dave, plus of course, there are the Jap Imports which are always worth a look....

Paul

dave_mezza2006
3rd September 2009, 01:51 PM
Cheers Paul. Theres a few choices then. :think:

I dont even know why Im looking at the mo, its not like she's in a postition to buy yet. I just like to be organised. :d

VelSatisfied
3rd September 2009, 01:58 PM
A job well-prepared, is a job half-completed!

Govus
4th September 2009, 02:23 PM
Would you ever think of something like this (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/RENAULT+KANGOO/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-18-29-40-50-110-231-240-4294960049-4294967236/advert.action?R=200934340369113&distance=391&postcode=FK5+4FW&channel=CARS&make=RENAULT&model=KANGOO&min_pr=500&max_pr=4000&max_mileage=40000&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2002&vehicleRegLetter=51) :confused: ??
http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/imgser-uk/servlet/media?id=970739433
OK, it's possibly rare and even expensive to maintain (honestly I don't know...), but I'm just giving you another idea :cool: ...

dave_mezza2006
4th September 2009, 02:25 PM
Would you ever think of something like this (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/RENAULT+KANGOO/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-18-29-40-50-110-231-240-4294960049-4294967236/advert.action?R=200934340369113&distance=391&postcode=FK5+4FW&channel=CARS&make=RENAULT&model=KANGOO&min_pr=500&max_pr=4000&max_mileage=40000&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2002&vehicleRegLetter=51) :confused: ??
http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/imgser-uk/servlet/media?id=970739433
OK, it's possibly rare and even expensive to maintain (honestly I don't know...), but I'm just giving you another idea :cool: ...

All suggestions are appreciated Govus :)

However I imagine the Mrs is looking for something a little less van shaped. As good and versatile as the Kangoo maybe I dont think she would like its styling.

daft_plonk
4th September 2009, 02:46 PM
how about ether of these?

my suggestion 1 (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/vans/advert+search/N-244,Ne-7-8-27-64-105-133-146-236/advert.action?R=200935113955409&distance=231&postcode=ts12+2tn&channel=VANS&make=&model=&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=&vehicleRegLetter=&make_keyword=Ford&model_keyword=Tourneo)

my suggestion 2 (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/vans/advert+search/N-244,Ne-7-8-27-64-105-133-146-236/advert.action?R=200933339891326&distance=145&postcode=ts12+2tn&channel=VANS&make=&model=&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2003&vehicleRegLetter=53&make_keyword=Ford&model_keyword=Tourneo)

dave_mezza2006
4th September 2009, 02:48 PM
how about ether of these?

my suggestion 1 (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/vans/advert+search/N-244,Ne-7-8-27-64-105-133-146-236/advert.action?R=200935113955409&distance=231&postcode=ts12+2tn&channel=VANS&make=&model=&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=&vehicleRegLetter=&make_keyword=Ford&model_keyword=Tourneo)

my suggestion 2 (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/vans/advert+search/N-244,Ne-7-8-27-64-105-133-146-236/advert.action?R=200933339891326&distance=145&postcode=ts12+2tn&channel=VANS&make=&model=&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2003&vehicleRegLetter=53&make_keyword=Ford&model_keyword=Tourneo)

Oh come on DP ! Keep with the program. :p

I've only got two kids, not a bloomin football team, well if the Mrs had her way. ;)

:rofl:

daft_plonk
4th September 2009, 02:56 PM
Oh come on DP ! Keep with the program. :p

I've only got two kids, not a bloomin football team, well if the Mrs had her way. ;)

:rofl:

yeah, I hear what your saying but its a transit van.

you could always get a crew cab though if it took your fancy, pleanty of boot space in them I recon, lol

dave_mezza2006
4th September 2009, 02:58 PM
yeah, I hear what your saying but its a transit van.

you could always get a crew cab though if it took your fancy, pleanty of boot space in them I recon, lol

Very true. And plenty of room for the inlaws (in the boot / load space) for when we take them on holiday with us. :rofl:

daft_plonk
4th September 2009, 03:00 PM
exactally, see there is sense to my suggestions afterall

dave_mezza2006
4th September 2009, 03:03 PM
exactally, see there is sense to my suggestions afterall

I didnt doubt your suggestions for a moment DP ;)

Pat.w
4th September 2009, 03:41 PM
Hey Dave

What about this (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VOLKSWAGEN/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-13-56-240-4294966886/advert.action?R=200932339560126&distance=134&postcode=ox7+4ee&channel=CARS&make=VOLKSWAGEN&model=&min_pr=&max_pr=2000&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=1998&vehicleRegLetter=R) :devil:

This (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VOLKSWAGEN+SHARAN/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-14-240-4294964820-4294966886/advert.action?R=200936341146630&distance=111&postcode=ox7+4ee&channel=CARS&make=VOLKSWAGEN&model=SHARAN&min_pr=&max_pr=3000&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=1996&vehicleRegLetter=P)looks a little better

dave_mezza2006
4th September 2009, 03:45 PM
Hey Dave

What about this (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VOLKSWAGEN/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-13-56-240-4294966886/advert.action?R=200932339560126&distance=134&postcode=ox7+4ee&channel=CARS&make=VOLKSWAGEN&model=&min_pr=&max_pr=2000&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=1998&vehicleRegLetter=R) :devil:

Ha. I saw that yesterday on Autotrader as it happens ! I'd love it, dont think the Mrs could handle it though. :rolleyes:

Also saw a nice newer shape 1.8 Turbo one, but the Co2 output was horrendous. :eek:

Pat.w
4th September 2009, 03:51 PM
Yeah she could....my Mrs keeps saying that she can't drive my cars, hence the Modus.
I've got her driving the scoob now.......A few interesting bursts of speed when she forgets that she has to be a lot more gentle with the right pedal :devil:

dave_mezza2006
4th September 2009, 03:56 PM
Thing is, if she was to get a VR6 Sharran / Galaxy, it would make my car look tame (which is anyway really :o) but then I'd have to get something faster too... :rofl:

After driving a 1.2 60 bhp (slowmobile) Fiat Punto at the weekend and then getting back in my 146bhp Mondeo, it seems fast, but not if she has a 2.8 VR6 ! :crazy:

Pat.w
4th September 2009, 04:12 PM
You know it's the way forward Dave :devil:

You never know she might then realise that you need a faster car :rolleyes:

dave_mezza2006
4th September 2009, 04:24 PM
You know it's the way forward Dave :devil:

You never know she might then realise that you need a faster car :rolleyes:

Good thinking batman. :d :think:

Pat.w
4th September 2009, 04:29 PM
What about one of these (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/advert+search/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-13-29-56-240/advert.action?R=200935340514787&distance=35&postcode=ox7+4ee&channel=CARS&make=&model=&min_pr=500&max_pr=2000&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=1994&vehicleRegLetter=L) :d

dave_mezza2006
4th September 2009, 04:31 PM
What about one of these (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/advert+search/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-13-29-56-240/advert.action?R=200935340514787&distance=35&postcode=ox7+4ee&channel=CARS&make=&model=&min_pr=500&max_pr=2000&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=1994&vehicleRegLetter=L) :d

:shocking:

She's after an MPV, not a bloomin mobile home. That things looks like its got a double bed in the back ! hmm... :think:, on 2nd thoughts, ;)

:rofl: :d

Pat.w
4th September 2009, 04:32 PM
:rofl: :rofl:

dave_mezza2006
4th September 2009, 04:34 PM
And it has tinted windows, so you cant be seen in the back ;) ! :d

Right wheres me credit card ! :crazy:

Telboy39
4th September 2009, 06:53 PM
Hi Dave, Just got rid of one of these, only problem was with central locking being a bit hit or miss, otherwise a real useful and comfortable motor.

dave_mezza2006
4th September 2009, 08:16 PM
Hi Dave, Just got rid of one of these, only problem was with central locking being a bit hit or miss, otherwise a real useful and comfortable motor.

Hi Telboy,

Thanks for your input, good to know they are a good mottah. Appreciate it mate.

Welcome to the forum too. :)

mikeholroyd
8th September 2009, 01:22 AM
I had a Picasso 2.0HDI on a 2002/02 plate, and had it for over 100k miles. Never had a day off the road, and it had nearly 149k on it when it was sold.

Can't recommend them highly enough, comfy, reliable and dirt cheap to run. Just watch the bodywork for the usual scuffs on bumper corners, rear wheel arches and the number of Picassos you see with damage on the sills is really eye-opening. So check these haven't been repaired.

Other than that, go for it, you'll not regret it.

Mike

dave_mezza2006
8th September 2009, 08:11 AM
I had a Picasso 2.0HDI on a 2002/02 plate, and had it for over 100k miles. Never had a day off the road, and it had nearly 149k on it when it was sold.

Can't recommend them highly enough, comfy, reliable and dirt cheap to run. Just watch the bodywork for the usual scuffs on bumper corners, rear wheel arches and the number of Picassos you see with damage on the sills is really eye-opening. So check these haven't been repaired.

Other than that, go for it, you'll not regret it.

Mike

Cheers for the input Mike, very useful.

I've seen a few advertised with sill damage / dents, whats that all about ? I've read on the picasso forum something about the jack being pants and if the car is jacked up in the wrong place, the sill can bend, is that true ? Guess it must be.

:)

Tink
8th September 2009, 12:03 PM
Hia Dave ,
my mate has had 2 picasso's both hdi's and he has rated them highly as a good family car.

Other than normal servicing etc. he had no problems.

just remeber the more seats you have the more chance there is of taking your childrens friends out with you:crazy:
(4 to 5 kids constantly asking you are we theyre yet!!!!)

Ian.

dave_mezza2006
8th September 2009, 12:07 PM
Hia Dave ,
my mate has had 2 picasso's both hdi's and he has rated them highly as a good family car.

Other than normal servicing etc. he had no problems.

just remeber the more seats you have the more chance there is of taking your childrens friends out with you:crazy:
(4 to 5 kids constantly asking you are we theyre yet!!!!)

Ian.

Thanks Ian. Looks like she will be getting the 1.6 petrol at the end of the day. Its a good job she's not concerned aboput performance ! Hopefully it will be as reliable. I want her to get the HDi, but shes dead set against it ! women ! :rolleyes:

Weve got 2 kids already, but the Picasso will mean she can sit between them when we go on holiday in it etc, and leave the front seat free for stuff ! Either that or room for another sprog at some point probably (if she has her own way).

Im glad she's been put off the idea of the 7 seater Zafira, as that could have meant three more kids :eek::eek::eek:.

Tink
8th September 2009, 12:19 PM
Im glad she's been put off the idea of the 7 seater Zafira, as that could have meant three more kids :eek::eek::eek:.

Pitty about the hdi option being out of the window, i personaly wouldnt go back to petrol on a family size car.

my friend now has the 7 seat c4 picasso and its a great car but its allways full of kids as he has no excuse for not taking friends or relatives with them on days out , i on the other hand dont have the room:d ( i know, im a tight git !):d

dave_mezza2006
8th September 2009, 12:22 PM
I dontk now as its 100% out of the window. I think we're gonna have to test drive both, and see what she thinks.

Hopefully the extra pull of the Hdi will convince her. :devil:

Tink
8th September 2009, 12:26 PM
I dontk now as its 100% out of the window. I think we're gonna have to test drive both, and see what she thinks.

Hopefully the extra pull of the Hdi will convince her. :devil:

Extra mpg is a biggy too m8.

dave_mezza2006
9th September 2009, 10:13 AM
Extra mpg is a biggy too m8.

Very true. She's complaining about the amount of miles she doesnt get out of her Punto 1.2 8v at the mo. I keep telling her its coz the price of petrol has gone up and your putting the same amount of petrol in, in money terms. :rolleyes:

VelSatisfied
9th September 2009, 12:04 PM
I remember a similar line in VIZ a few years back, which went along the lines of;

The rising cost of fuel doesn't bother me - I still put 20 pound's worth in, and its not any more expensive....:crazy:

The logic of some:confused:

Paul

dave_mezza2006
9th September 2009, 12:08 PM
I remember a similar line in VIZ a few years back, which went along the lines of;

The rising cost of fuel doesn't bother me - I still put 20 pound's worth in, and its not any more expensive....:crazy:

The logic of some:confused:

Paul

:rofl: - It wasnt a woman that said it in Viz (A fat one) was it Paul :d

VelSatisfied
9th September 2009, 12:14 PM
I can't remember, it was in the Top Tips section.

I read it once, then had to keep reading it - I found it so hilarious.

Its one of those lines which you can almost imagine people thinking that way...

Brilliant.

Paul:d

SportTourer
9th September 2009, 01:30 PM
We had a 2001 1.6 petrol Picasso - ok most of the time but it is undepowered especially on inclines and with a boot full.

We then upgraded to a 2002 ( we bought 2nd hand) 2.0hdi 90bhp - engine was great, excellent economy and a much much better drive all around than the 1.6 petrol.
Must admit thought that the June 2001 petrol was better built than the Feb 2003 Hdi model.
Window regulators can be a problem - we had one replaced on each of ours under warranty.
Also the digital display bulbs seem to fail ( ours never did) - but it is really easy to remove the front digital display ( it just unclips) and you can easily replace the bulbs yourself - takes less than 5 mins!!

As with a lot of cars, there were a lot of recalls early on in the life of the Xsara Picasso - make sure all of these have been carried out.

Dash reflections as Lag has said before can be a problem - there is a "mod kit" out which is basically an afterthought from Citreon which involves a moulded matt black plastic cover which sticks on to the top of the original dash.
Dont polish the top of the dash - leave it a dull as you can!

Also check that the spare wheel is still there - it is mounted underneath the car outside - there have been lots of reports of these being stolen. A lot of owners have boot locks to lock them in place and again I think Citroen now do a lock kit.
Although a gimmick all picassos come with a folding shopping trolley in the boot - again these go missing - apparently this can affect resale(!!! - god knows why) if this is missing.
Don't think it is a problem with the SX models but paint flakes off the interior door handles on the exclusives as they are spray painted silvery chrome - think the SX just comes with standard unpainted handles.

Gear leaver gaitors also prone to split!

All in all the Xsara Pic is a great car for the money, at the end of the day you get what you pay for - they are built to a budget so some trim etc is a bit flimsy - but overall we were pleased with both of ours. Very comfy on long drives and the higher up driving position provides a good view.

We then went to a Laguna 1.9dci SportTourer which was great. Trouble free for the whole time we owned it ( nearly 4 yrs)

Due to knee problem we changed the Lag for a C4 Picasso 5 seat 2.0hdi (136bhp) Exclusive - this is an excellent motor, leap years ahead of the Xsara Picasso all round. We have had it 18mths and never been near the garage since the day we drove it off the forecourt with 2.8 miles on the clock!!

dave_mezza2006
9th September 2009, 02:07 PM
Great post ST, with lots of useful info.

I've read about the spare wheels being stolen, for the sake of 30 or so I think well defo being getting a lock for it !

I really do want her to get the 2.0 Hdi, as when I drive it (I will be a named driver on the insurance), I'd be annoyed by the weedy 1.6 petrol engine. No doubt when we go out on day trips or on holiday in it, I'll be driving it you see.

All that remains is for my brother in law to pass his test, and buy the car off her at the end of october, Mrs Dave to get a loan (shouldnt be a bother) and then find a suitably low mileage well looked after diesel Pic.

Sods law has it that I've seen a few I like the look off already. :rolleyes: Im sure there will be others nearer the time.

:)

dave_mezza2006
16th November 2009, 01:29 PM
Well, as of Saturday the Mrs has put a deposit down ( on my credit card :eek:) on a 2001 Y reg Picasso with 64k on the clock in a grey / purple color for 2195.

The cars in mint condition inside and out, not a ding / dent on her and no rust anywhere. :d

However on the test drive it was apparant that there was something wrong with the exhaust as it was banging on the underside of the car over bumps and popping a bit. The trader has been very good and said that he will sort the exhaust out, MOT it, replace a few other bits and throw 6 months tax into the bargin. He also said if Im not happy next saturday with the car I can just walk away with my deposit refunded if I like.

So Im going back on Saturday to test drive it again, to check the exhaust is sorted and the few other bits are fixed (fog lamp bulb etc) and assuming that its OK I'll be driving her home (the Mrs darent... :rofl:).

Pat.w
16th November 2009, 01:32 PM
Sounds like a peach matey

dave_mezza2006
16th November 2009, 01:35 PM
Sounds like a peach matey

I bloody hope so, or I wont hear the end of it ! :eek: But saying that I've already told her that if something falls of it that its not my fault, it is french after all ! :rofl:

She's also taken my advice (or will / better :baseballbat:) and get an aftermarket warranty on it once the warranty from the trader runs out.

VelSatisfied
17th November 2009, 04:21 AM
Best of luck with the new car Dave.

P.S. Make sure the spare is mounted on the underside of the boot floor, sometimes they go missing...(also check its condition at the same time).

Post a few pics when you get the chance.

Paul

dave_mezza2006
17th November 2009, 08:24 AM
Best of luck with the new car Dave.

P.S. Make sure the spare is mounted on the underside of the boot floor, sometimes they go missing...(also check its condition at the same time).

Post a few pics when you get the chance.

Paul

Hi Paul. Yeah I read about the spares being stolen, and Ive already checked that its there. ;)

I'll also buy a lock for it, to stop it going missing in the future. I'll post pics when we get it too. :)

VelSatisfied
17th November 2009, 10:47 AM
Looking forward to them.

I know the colour yours is - works well with the design.

I don't know if yours will have alloys, but if not, a decent secondhand set will lift the looks for not much dosh - just remember (to swap the bolts as well) - Caveat Emptor!:d

Glad to hear you've got it all sorted out.

Paul

dave_mezza2006
17th November 2009, 01:37 PM
The pics not got alloys, just steel wheels and the SX wheel trims. At least if she kerbs a wheel, the trim will be cheap(ish) to replace to to opposed refurbing the alloy. :rolleyes:

I dont think I should start modding the OH's car, she thinks Im mad doing it to my car as it is ! :d

Caveat Emptor ! :rofl:

When (assuming its all sorted) I bring it home on saturday, I'll take a few pics and start another thread in the "my mottah" section. :d

VelSatisfied
17th November 2009, 01:42 PM
At least if she kerbs a wheel, the trim will be cheap(ish) to replace to to opposed refurbing the alloy. :rolleyes:

I know the feeling - I shudder every time the OH takes the merc out...

Just a thought about the car you're buying - have you checked the instrument panel illuminates? When you put the lights on, the digital display should be lit also (sometimes the bulb blows).

Enjoy the car.

Paul

dave_mezza2006
17th November 2009, 01:46 PM
I know the feeling - I shudder every time the OH takes the merc out...

Just a thought about the car you're buying - have you checked the instrument panel illuminates? When you put the lights on, the digital display should be lit also (sometimes the bulb blows).

Enjoy the car.

Paul

Good point. And yes I think so. I recall seeing the display backlight come on / go off when I put the lights on and turned them off. But the bulbs are easy to get too by the looks of it. Over on the citroen picasso forum (that I've checked out ;)) there is a walkthrough detailing how to do it ! Theres about 20 bloody wedge type bulbs behind that display :eek:

Cheers for the thoughts / good info Paul. :)

VelSatisfied
17th November 2009, 02:02 PM
The OH's Aunty absolutely loves them (she's on her second, both bought brand-new and paid full retail both times:eek:...). Her dealership has a good telescope which certainly see's her coming...

All the best.

Paul

Lagdti
19th November 2009, 10:58 PM
Which engine has the new toy got Dave?.

Good luck for Saturday.:)

Tiggerz_SRi
19th November 2009, 11:39 PM
:iagree: which engine did the mrs dave go for in the end?!

dave_mezza2006
20th November 2009, 08:15 AM
She went for the 1.8 16v.... I talked her out of the 1.6, but she wouldnt be swayed on the diesel...

Still, aparrantly the 1.8 will do 0-60mph in 10.8 secs and do over 60mph in 2nd gear? :eek: Not even my Mondy can do that (the 60mph in 2nd bit).

I spoke to the trader about the car on Wednesday, the exhaust needed realigning as it was banging / rubbing on the tow bar. The Picasso passed its MOT too, but I'll be checking the VOSA website to see if it had any advisories or if it failed on anything etc ;)

Tiggerz_SRi
20th November 2009, 12:32 PM
sounds good then buddy!!

Doug Sinnott
23rd November 2009, 09:33 PM
I had a 02 Picasso 1.6 petrol from new for 3 years,and it was a reliable,roomy car.I bought one of the first Picassos in my area,and was quite an trendsetter in it's day.
You sit nice and high,nice comfy seats,and all the extras.
They're nice and quiet on the motorway as well.
The diesel is a better buy though,than the petrol(more economical).
No problems at all,in fact I went on and bought two more Citroens,all very reliable.
I now have a 55 Megane 1.5dci Sport Tourer auto,which has certainly caused a few problems since I bought it last November,Auto gearbox sensor,brake switch,window regulator,and lights bulbs,(all fixed under warranty thankfully)
Considering the car had only done 28000,with full Renault history,it's has been very disappointing.
I've never had a car like this before,and had thought about getting rid of it,but I would have to part with yet more money to get a similar lower mileage(non-Renault!) diesel auto car,they're very hard to find.

However,I still like it,for some strange reason,and it has behaved itself for the last 9000 miles!

dave_mezza2006
23rd November 2009, 09:50 PM
I had a 02 Picasso 1.6 petrol from new for 3 years,and it was a reliable,roomy car.I bought one of the first Picassos in my area,and was quite an trendsetter in it's day.
You sit nice and high,nice comfy seats,and all the extras.
They're nice and quiet on the motorway as well.
The diesel is a better buy though,than the petrol(more economical).
No problems at all,in fact I went on and bought two more Citroens,all very reliable.
I now have a 55 Megane 1.5dci Sport Tourer auto,which has certainly caused a few problems since I bought it last November,Auto gearbox sensor,brake switch,window regulator,and lights bulbs,(all fixed under warranty thankfully)
Considering the car had only done 28000,with full Renault history,it's has been very disappointing.
I've never had a car like this before,and had thought about getting rid of it,but I would have to part with yet more money to get a similar lower mileage(non-Renault!) diesel auto car,they're very hard to find.

However,I still like it,for some strange reason,and it has behaved itself for the last 9000 miles!

Nice info their about the Picasso mate.... they are definitley roomy... especially when she had a Punto before !

Sorry to hear about your Megane. This forum helps though I bet...

I know what you mean, I loved my Laguna II, despite all the problems I had with it....:)

Thorshammer
24th November 2009, 05:29 PM
Theres about 20 bloody wedge type bulbs behind that display :eek:

Nine I think. Well when my mechanic friend changed mine, he brought one bulb back out of a pack of ten.

dave_mezza2006
24th November 2009, 08:05 PM
Nine I think. Well when my mechanic friend changed mine, he brought one bulb back out of a pack of ten.

Thats not too bad then. Cheers mate. :)

Doug Sinnott
24th November 2009, 08:37 PM
Picassos are very reliable,for a French car!
The diesels are long lasting,and seem trouble free,in fact they seem popular with taxi drivers,always a good sign!
A full service history is essential,but I had one for three years,and it was no trouble.
In fact I am thinking of partexing my 55 plate Megane 1.5 dci estate for a 4 year old diesel Picassa,as I'm scared about a possible turbo failure in the near future,a common problem it seems,according to the forums.
I would never buy another Renault,as I have no confidence in the car,due to various problems in my 12 months of ownership.