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Hi Everyone,

I've recently bought a 53plate 2.2dci laguna Initiale sportwagon, for my good lady.

In general it seems like a nice car, plenty of toys etc, and as of yet I haven't really had a problem with it.

The car is running ok, no probs starting etc. However, I can't help feeling that it is a bit flat, and overly relaxed in terms of oomph! As far as I am aware this model is supposed to have 150 bhp on tap, from which I would expect that it should be quite keen and pull strongly when floored etc. However, I can't help but feel disappointed with the performance.

It seems to pull a ok'ish between about 1900 to 2500 rpm, but then feels as if it is being starved of fuel or boost being dumped etc. Have others out there found that it is a bit sluggish etc??

Is this what this engine is normally like or does it suggest a blocked fuel filter or basic tune up required? I'm not really kean on the idea of ECU chipping it, however I'd like it to feel abit more like 150bhp!

Any details of others 2.2dci drivers experiences would be welcome. Thanks!
 

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Hi grobster and welcome to Renault Forums, I'm sure one of the guys will give advice soon
Regards Leroy
 

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egr valve stuck??? blocked cat??? fuel as you say?? just bouncing ideas noff of you hope you get to the root of the problem
 

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Thanks everyone for the warm welcoming!!

I'm quite happy that nobody has come along and said 'sorry mate, but they don't have any oomph!'.

I guess that the best thing is to get it in for a check over! Is the 2.2dci quite an easy motor for most good garages to work on?... or is a Reno expert/dealer check over required?

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Thanks everyone for the warm welcoming!!

I'm quite happy that nobody has come along and said 'sorry mate, but they don't have any oomph!'.

I guess that the best thing is to get it in for a check over! Is the 2.2dci quite an easy motor for most good garages to work on?... or is a Reno expert/dealer check over required?

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Hi Grobster,

Welcome to the forum......

I'd agree with the guys to get the car checked over as a car with 150bhp is not really something thats sluggish!!!

Where abouts in Yorkshire are you located???
 

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Located in Tingley near Leeds.

I seem to remember test driving a 2.2DCi sport a few years ago and can remember thinking that it pulled quite well. No speed machine.... but a good strong diesel pull.

I realise that people only seem to come on these forums to talk about problems...... but.. 'hells bells' there does seem to be a lot of DCi problems, and very few of them talking about a cheap and quick fix. How much do these EGR valves cost? are they an OEM part only? or are there some after market alternatives?
 

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Quick update!!!

I took it to a pal who is a diesel specialist, and his first guess without even looking at the car was the MAF. However, when he plugged it into his ECU diagnostic machine, he told me that it just needed a few perameters resetting, and the MAF was reading as it should. 10 minutes later all sorted. The car is still no flying machine however, there is now a definite strong pull from the turbo and a vast improvement from the prior sluggish/lazy performance.
 

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Its good that you got it sorted, and gave the feedback just in case any others have the problem in the future.
 

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might be worth getting the turbo and the cat checked I've just had to replace both on my 1.9dti laguna and your symptoms sound familiar to my car about 1 month ago, down on performance and revs, is it a bit smokey now and again and whats on the clock ?
 

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Grobster. I see you're from Leeds way. What was the name of the guy you took the car too? I have the same problem and im thinking its the ECU. I would like to get it checked.
 

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Quick update!!!

I took it to a pal who is a diesel specialist, and his first guess without even looking at the car was the MAF. However, when he plugged it into his ECU diagnostic machine, he told me that it just needed a few perameters resetting, and the MAF was reading as it should. 10 minutes later all sorted. The car is still no flying machine however, there is now a definite strong pull from the turbo and a vast improvement from the prior sluggish/lazy performance.
Nice to hear you got the problem sorted . . I have a similar frustration with my 150BHP??? 2.2DCI Initiale.
(I have already done the EGR cleaning route . . . )

Many thanks for the tip about resetting the
MAF. I think I will take it to a 'tuning' garage and get it checked out.
Was your friend working for a national garage?

I eagerly await your reply . . . .
 

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Laguna 2.2DCI . . power loss/flat

Nice to hear you got the problem sorted . . I have a similar frustration with my 150BHP??? 2.2DCI Initiale.
(I have already done the EGR cleaning route . . . )

Many thanks for the tip about resetting the
MAF. I think I will take it to a 'tuning' garage and get it checked out.
Was your friend working for a national garage?

I eagerly await your reply . . . .
Update 21/12/07
I took it to a local deisel diagnostic specialist and £115 later found that the main reason was lack of air flow . . . ???!!!
A replacement filter later and it is a lot better than before.
Strange as when I picked up the car the car supermarket said they had replaced oil filter, oil, air filter . . .???
I am seriously doubting they did anything now even though they gave me a certificate to say they had . . . . !!!??
I may send them a polite letter stating the above and see what happens . . .
May update this thread again . . .
 

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Getting worried

Hi all.
My 2000 2.2dci Espace runs fine until you either 1. get heavy footed or 2. sit at high revs foe any length of time (say on the motorway). Then it loses power, will not accelerate and the warning symbol that looks like a hospital heart monitor comes on.
It feels like fuel starvation. Just wondering where I can get at the fuel filter to change it and /or drain any water out of the fuel.

ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR ADVICE WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

p.s. I took it into a dealership, they stuck it on the computer (£75) and declared I needed new glow plugs. New plugs fitted and total of £160 later the problem is still there.

Heeeeeeeeelp!!!
 

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Quick update!!!

I took it to a pal who is a diesel specialist, and his first guess without even looking at the car was the MAF. However, when he plugged it into his ECU diagnostic machine, he told me that it just needed a few perameters resetting, and the MAF was reading as it should. 10 minutes later all sorted. The car is still no flying machine however, there is now a definite strong pull from the turbo and a vast improvement from the prior sluggish/lazy performance.
Hi . . . Just trying to get some extra info . . . .
When I took my car to my local deisel 'specialist' he commented that the MAF was 'fixed' data . . .i.e. it could not be updated/corrected/ changed . . . ???
Could anyone please enlighten me as to whether this is correct or not? . . .and where I can avail myself of proof that it can be altered. I will then go back to this guy armed with this info and get him to check it again.
Many thanks in advance . . . . .
 

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I've heard the ESP when disengaged will improve speed from standstill at potential loss of control :eek: I can't say because my disengage button doesn't work :(

Otherwise, does the 2.2 have 150 horses between the gears? Reckon so. Its no slouch. It'll easily accelerate fully loaded - boot and 5 peeps - up at hill at 80. (And it won't smoke). Equally if you put your foot down at 70 it'll hit 100 (or 120 :oops: ) without breaking a sweat.

Its not mega fast. I reckon a 123d would have sharper diesel response, or a 335d would seriously kick @ss, or a chipped TDi - don't whatever you do chip a lag, they struggle at the best of times not to fall apart :rofl: - but otherwise as diesels go its a good drivetrain I would say. Don't forget you get decent performance and refinement and 40 mpg for daylong cruising at 80mph, and they bought this out in 2001, and just think what any of those alternatives would cost you.

My performance tips: regular 9k full synth oil changes, K&N air filter - the 2.2 likes to breath - and keep the EGR intake manifold / throttle damper valve housing nice n clean, plus regular fuel treatment, luverly jubberly.

Cheers

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ps any signs of burning oil .... PANIC!!!!! ;)
 
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