[jaygoodsell]

Hi, so recently i’ve been getting a noise when the cars cold and then started up. It’s a clicking/tapping as well as a metal scratching sound. It’s gradually got worse.

It’s been taken to a mechanic and also recently has a service so full oil change has been done. Nothing come back with an issue.

Problem is once driven the noise seems to go (once engines warm) so then when someone comes to look at it they can’t hear it

 

[jaygoodsell]

Hi, so recently i’ve been getting a noise when the cars cold and then started up. It’s a clicking/tapping as well as a metal scratching sound. It’s gradually got worse.

It’s been taken to a mechanic and also recently has a service so full oil change has been done. Nothing come back with an issue.

Problem is once driven the noise seems to go (once engines warm) so then when someone comes to look at it they can’t hear it

I’ve attached 3 videos of the noise below -

Video 1
Video 2
Video 3

 

[Phil48]

From the vids its a clio 4 1.2 16v..

General clatter from tappets and auxiliary belt pulleys..how much mileage is on the engine..they are not the quietest of engines in the first place but when the mileage piles on they do get tappy..it gets quieter when warm my reply pretty much answers your question..

Thread moved to engines..

 

[Dancingdad]

What grade oil is in the beasty and is it the right stuff.
Tappety when cold suggests oil is not getting to where it should when cold.
Which may mean wrong oil.

 

[LvR]

While I hear belts and squeaks I cannot hear the cyclic nature of tappets or something mechanical inside the engine ................. I want to say I hear a loose sparkplug though?

Especially video #2

 

[Phil48]

While I hear belts and squeaks I cannot hear the cyclic nature of tappets or something mechanical inside the engine ................. I want to say I hear a loose sparkplug though?

Especially video #2

Can't hear the tapping on the tappets !!!..try my hearing aid see if that helps..some ticking might also be fuel injectors..

Tappet regapping is one of the least done on these engines because there is quite a bit to remove before you even get to the cam cover..out of sight out of mind rules here..

 

[LvR]

Lets see!


............ in fact Il put a virtual beer on it - either loose plug or leaking manifold/exhaust/turbo gasket

 

[Phil48]

Lets see!

lmao..well that will only be proven if he is prepared to get out there and roll his sleeves up..lol..I wonder if he knows how to remove the air box ? check engines section if he doesnt..its a sticky..lol

 

[Phil48]

Lets see!


............ in fact Il put a virtual beer on it - either loose plug or leaking manifold/exhaust/turbo gasket

I want 500 rand on the table or get ya ass on a plane and buy the forum a round..no turbo.. exhaust mani bolts will be fun if he wants to try and connection from Cat pipe to mani is a b1tch as well..just need to encourage him a little now to check.. ? ?

 

[LvR]

Luckily the rand is so pathetic atm this is going to be cheap lost bet if I even lose

 

[jaygoodsell]

From the vids its a clio 4 1.2 16v..

General clatter from tappets and auxiliary belt pulleys..how much mileage is on the engine..they are not the quietest of engines in the first place but when the mileage piles on they do get tappy..it gets quieter when warm my reply pretty much answers your question..

Thread moved to engines..

it’s only on 49k

 

[Phil48]

it’s only on 49k

Not a lot I know but these engines can sludge and the filth will accelerate wear of the cam gear..on one service its part of the schedule but I bet they dont do it ..did you have it from new and had all its services..quite involved to get to the cam gear and even the inlet manifold/auxiliary belt and aircon genny has to come off..adjusting the tappets is old school spanner and screwdriver jobby if they need adjusting..

 

[jaygoodsell]

Not a lot I know but these engines can sludge and the filth will accelerate wear of the cam gear..on one service its part of the schedule but I bet they dont do it ..did you have it from new and had all its services..quite involved to get to the cam gear and even the inlet manifold/auxiliary belt and aircon genny has to come off..adjusting the tappets is old school spanner and screwdriver jobby if they need adjusting..

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i’ve only had the car 5 months or so? it’s got full service history though

 

[Dancingdad]

Listening again with a bit of peace around here, there is deffo a chuff chuff component to it.
And if volume and position is any clue from vid 2, cylinder by belt end.
It's worth pulling the air filter and leads to give the plugs a nip.... don't try to force them, can strip the threads but sticking a socket on and a nip may well be the answer.

 

[Phil48]

Still can't hear any chuffin on vid 2 ..hearing aid might be the reason why tho..Mmmm

 

[LvR]

Listening again with a bit of peace around here, there is deffo a chuff chuff component to it.
And if volume and position is any clue from vid 2, cylinder by belt end.

This .............. I just dont get the "clakity" component of a typical cam/rocker gap issue

 

[Phil48]

D4f 712 but they can be noisy little beggars..hear the ticking again..

 

[LvR]

Agreed I hear the expected CYCLIC clacking/ticking in THIS video, but to me its totally different from the other example of the OP

 

[bugsb]

first thing i would do is remove the aux belt and see if its still there

 

[Ozzie Lag owner]

Hi, so recently i’ve been getting a noise when the cars cold and then started up. It’s a clicking/tapping as well as a metal scratching sound. It’s gradually got worse.

It’s been taken to a mechanic and also recently has a service so full oil change has been done. Nothing come back with an issue.

Problem is once driven the noise seems to go (once engines warm) so then when someone comes to look at it they can’t hear it

Sounds a bit like a de-laminating belt to me, flapping every revolution. The timing seems to match the auxiliary belt marks. Cam belt? Just a thought.
The old screwdriver-in-the-ear trick might help to locate the noise (Mind your fingers and the rotating bits)..