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Hello just purchased a 53 plate 120 1.9 dci tourer with 128K on the clock. Was wondering how reliable a car this is? wrong time to be asking i know. It has FRSH

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The short answer to your question is not very....:(

BUT,if you buy carefully and check the vehicles history(especially for a turbo replacement),then you should be OK.

The earlier Lag 2's were pretty troublesome,but as the model developed the faults got ironed out gradually.

The best advice I can give to you if you go for this car is change the oil and filter every 6 or 9k,not the 18k recommended,and use 5w40 fully synthetic oil.Also,find yourself a good independant garage or Renault specialist to carry out any work you can't do yourself.

Have a look around the forum as there is a mass of info on the Lag 2 on here,but remember that most people join here to get answers to questions regarding faults with their cars,so most of the comments are a little one sided.We don't get many people join up just to praise their Renault!.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.:)
 

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The Laguna II has had its fair share of reliability problems. The 1.9dci in particular with turbo related faults. Most were for the early Lag II models, by late 2003 Renault had sorted the majority of common failings, except it appears the window regulators, they are still a weakpoint!
That said, as yours is a late 03 model it will have the modified intercooler fitted as standard. Renault also initially specified the "wrong" oil spec - they now specify fully synthetic 5w/40. Most problems were due to 18k between services being too long. Most people and even Renault themselves specify 9k for oil changes.
SOme people will slag it off and say don't buy it, sell it etc. Forums aren't usually full of people saying how good their car is.
THe Lag is a great car, let down by some poor dealers and niggly French electronics. No car will be perfect, no matter how much you buy it for or what make it is.
We have had several Renaults and all have been reliable. Our Lag 1.9dci is a great car, that has been faultless in the 2yrs we have had it. We would certainly consider another one, the only thing that may stop us is that I usually wont a change, buying another Lag wouldn't seem like getting a new car!
 

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The short answer to your question is not very....:(
Lagdti a very diplomatic answer. My opinion is a little less warm lol..
But like anything, you get good and you get bad, unfortunately the 1.9DCi has more bads..
Still best of luck owning it. On the postive side there are many people on this forum that can and will help you if you require it.
 

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does that mean i escape my turbo going pop then? or is my car an accident waiting to happen? Ive seen turbos for £500 on ebay... are these difficult to fit?
 

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wlcome to the forum cookci.
i have a 1.9 dci hatchback iv'e had no major probs,the car has now done 98000 and still drives well,as lagtdi says change the oil between 6-9000,and regular servicing.
good luck with your motor.
 

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GO in to your renault dealer, see what has been done under warranty - it may show your turbo as already being done. Thats what happened with mine - was done 12k before I bought it.
 

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Some good advice already given - on the plus side, your car has covered a fairly good mileage (so if it was a lemon - there's a good chance that it either wouldn't have covered this distance or most of the major problems would be ironed out).

I would say that most problems are well documented, but a bit of prevention goes a long way - things like getting it serviced regularly, getting a cambelt change, keeping it under an aftermarket warranty will all pay dividends in maintaining your expenditure to the foreseen, rather than the unforeseen levels.

I would suggest shopping around for labour - using a garage of good repute rather than just basing it on cost - it can often work out that you get what you pay for...

Again, I would also advocate using genuine parts - a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

All the best, and remember, what has happened to others will not necessarily happen to you.

Paul:)
 
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change oil every 6k with 5w/40 full synthitic/ if your windows squeek a lot, take th edoor covers off and oil and grease the cables and runners, gearboxes are a little weak to so get the oil changed its trp and renault spec only, if you do them 3 points you should be ok.
 

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change oil every 6k with 5w/40 full synthitic/ if your windows squeek a lot, take th edoor covers off and oil and grease the cables and runners, gearboxes are a little weak to so get the oil changed its trp and renault spec only, if you do them 3 points you should be ok.
Do as the man says :)
 

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Well sorry, but I'm one of those that isn't going to praise the Laguna-you did ask for faults after all...:rolleyes:
I'll keep ithe list as brief as I can(but there WILL be lots more faults I've forgot or just not cared to mention as they were just 'niggles' but you get to a point when you say enough is enough-The sunroof opening on it's own(YES HONESTLY):crazy: in a rainstorm :steam: was the final straw...but expect these to die...:(
1)Gearbox to give up from (every) 60k onwards...£800+
2)Balljoints (with attached wisbone) give up EVERY 30k... £250
3)Rear Suspension rubbers from 20k £60-£250 (you really need to drop the rear axel suspension)
4)Rear Callipers to seize at handbrake £180
5)Front springs (not heavy duty enough to take the diesel lump) £80 each but advised replace in pairs- about 80k max
6)Alloys..what can I say if they're the 17"silverstone then I think they were made from melted down Baked Bean cans...ANY hole/seam/kerb bigger than 1/2" will put a ding in the rim the size of your fist- £180 each
I WILL stop there but with 125k+ miles on it alot will have been done(some more than once) but the car does NOT get better with age and miles(it AINT a peugot) so expect all of these and MORE:( :rant:
The Laguna still 'looking good' is all you can expectin the end cos it CERTAINLY aint from the construction side!
 

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Wow! I thought my previous 2.0 IDE was a lemon. I stand corrected!

The current 1.9 dCi is doing a lot better. Heading for 50K, and the worst fault I've had is a faulty switch on the end of the wiper stalk.

You do list a lot of common faults there, but I think you've been pretty unlucky to have been hit by the lot of them, and then some.
 

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No tut tut please.

It's true - you cannot use the words: Renault and Reliable in one sentence.

Check out any reliability survey you want.

My previous car was a Mitsubishi Galant. I had it for just over 5 years. Apart from the annual service, I never had to see my dealer, never had to repair anything, no rattles, didn't even need to change a light bulb.

Fill in petrol, tax the car and drive it.

Show me a Renault, any Renault that can top that.

My current car, an Espace IV is barely 1 year old, done only 5000 miles - has not started and left me stranded twice, has had more warning lights than my Xmas tree and I'm almost on first name terms with my local Renault dealer!!!
 

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No tut tut please.
I think that was in response to my comments about Alfas and Fiats. Lag loves Alfas and has a Fiat as a restoration project (if he happens to get the welding sorted before it actually splits in two.)
My previous car was a Mitsubishi Galant. I had it for just over 5 years. Apart from the annual service, I never had to see my dealer, never had to repair anything, no rattles, didn't even need to change a light bulb.

Fill in petrol, tax the car and drive it.

Show me a Renault, any Renault that can top that.
Show me any European car that can top that (though I can give one example - see below.) The Japanese are in a different league when it comes to reliability and build quality. We all know and accept that, so why not bin the whole European car industry in one go?
My current car, an Espace IV is barely 1 year old, done only 5000 miles - has not started and left me stranded twice, has had more warning lights than my Xmas tree and I'm almost on first name terms with my local Renault dealer!!!
Our previous Clio II ran for four trouble-free years until it developed a running fault that was probably Top Dead Centre. That's a cheap DIY fix, though we bunged it to the dealer because we had the extended warranty, at which point we saw the car's replacement and did the swap.

My first Laguna I was the most reliable car I've ever had. It broke down twice in 120K miles: Once when a large piece of motorway debris hit the water pump, causing coolant loss and ultimately overheating. And again, with the same problem about a week later when the dealer didn't fix it properly. Apart from that, it dumped the exhaust back box onto the motorway once, but I was able to continue my journey after tying the box onto the bumper. The car did have a problem with battery drain if left standing for more than a week, but that may have been down to some of the bits that I wired into it myself.

Admittedly the two cars that followed were far less impressive - the 2.0 IDE was a bona-fide dog in my book. But apart from a few niggles, the current one's still holding its own with just under 50K on the clock.
 

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We had a Renault Megane T reg 1.6 16v - 48,000 miles completley trouble free!

Our Laguna 1.9dci 120 - almost 3yrs old,40k on the clock - one window regulator replaced under warranty - otherwise no other problems at all.

Our Megane 1.9dci 130 FAP - almost 12mths old,5k on the clock and not a single niggle from it, we had it brand spanking new!

We had a Ford Focus for 2 yrs - faultless.

Most unreliable car we had was a Nissan Primera - never let us down but was a pile of sh!t. Closely followed by a Citroen Picasso.

I know not all cars from the same make are as reliable. My colleage had a Mitsubishi Colt - he had loads of problems.Another colleague swears by Volvo but has loads of issues, but still buys them. I also know Renaults and French cars aren't the most reliable brand and always rate poorly in customer surveys. Although I take them with a pinch of salt as only people with problems tend to take part in them.

Car ownership is a lottery - I know it shouldn't be, we pay enough so we should excpect reliability, especially in this day and age. Unfortunately it's a fact of modern day living that your car will break down or have a fault no matter what model ,make you have at some point in its life. We have been "Lucky" with Renault, next time we may not.
 

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Anyway i like working on cars, thats why i own a laguna ..........lol
In a strange roundabout way i'd agree with you. I had a SEAT Cordoba as my main car, it went wrong so infrequently compared to my renaults i was almost happy so i had somthing to fix!
 
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