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Hi to all and thanks for taking the time to have a wee look,well further to my ball joint problem after taking a good look with the wheel off and the car jacked up and on axle stands it seems its not the ball joint.

This all started when i was turning left at higher speed 20/25mph and if the car is to hit a little uneven part on the road with the weight transfered to the drivers side when i hit the that uneven surface of road i would get a slit knock but not on a right hand turn there is nothing at all.

So i took it as being the ball joint but after i had put the car up on the axle stands and took both front wheels off it appears the both ball joint are fine and so is both the drop linkage bars and the rubbers on the anti roll bars looks good and for the track rod end arms they also look good.All the above parts that have rubber involved in the part they are all good and no splits or nothing.

But on the drivers side before i took the wheel off i held it at the ten till two position and if i then pushed and pulled there is a slit play there,and if i start the car up or when she is not running and i rock the steering wheel iam getting a knock coming through the steering wheel,but the question is what is it?????????If i get the wife to rock the steering and i hold the track rod end you can also feal it at both sides????

Iam ready for the asylum

Thanks Donald
 

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Hi Donald

You seem to have covered all the bits i would check,but could the knock be play in the wheel bearing?

Just a suggestion till more see the post.

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Hi Donald

You seem to have covered all the bits i would check,but could the knock be play in the wheel bearing?

Just a suggestion till more see the post.

:) :)

Smile....eat more chocolate....:) :)
Hi Glenda thats what iam thinking but would this travel to the other side of the car as a knock and also up to me at the steering wheel????
 

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hi don.
been scratching my head on this one,if i remember right isn't there a pinion where the steering columb joins at the steering rack,it could be the cause of your prob.if i was you mate.take it to a specialist and have it checked out,better safe than sorry.
 

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hi don.
been scratching my head on this one,if i remember right isn't there a pinion where the steering columb joins at the steering rack,it could be the cause of your prob.if i was you mate.take it to a specialist and have it checked out,better safe than sorry.
Hi 5th wheel where would i find this pinion in the foot well or at the other side of the bulk head iam also thinking steering linkage or steering rack???????
 

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its the piece between the bulk head and the steering rack,there should be 2 small universal joints.also in the rack is the cog that moves the steering.don't mess with it don,get a garage to look at it,if only to pick there brains,and then decide if it is worthwhile tackeling the job yourself.
 

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Hi Donald ... I guess its maybe the rack ... although I'm sure there is adjustment on it to take up a wee bit of slack ... the other thing that jumps to mind is the damper top strut bearing ... although you wont feel it until its under load ... so difficult to test with the car jacked up ...

Something else to think about ... oh by the way ... have a plain bounty ... always makes me feel better :)
 

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Hi Donald ... I guess its maybe the rack ... although I'm sure there is adjustment on it to take up a wee bit of slack ... the other thing that jumps to mind is the damper top strut bearing ... although you wont feel it until its under load ... so difficult to test with the car jacked up ...

Something else to think about ... oh by the way ... have a plain bounty ... always makes me feel better :)
Cheers Truckbusuk how do you do this if it was the rack,i have to say i think its the wheel bearing to be honest but iam wishing it is not the rack:crazy: i have to say the rack would scare me
 

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its the piece between the bulk head and the steering rack,there should be 2 small universal joints.also in the rack is the cog that moves the steering.don't mess with it don,get a garage to look at it,if only to pick there brains,and then decide if it is worthwhile tackeling the job yourself.
I think if it is the rack i will not be doing it but as always its going to come down to money iam hoping its the wheel bearing fingers XXXXXX;)
 

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Cheers Truckbusuk how do you do this if it was the rack,i have to say i think its the wheel bearing to be honest but iam wishing it is not the rack:crazy: i have to say the rack would scare me

Hi Donald, Im sure there is an adjuster on the rack where the hydraulic pipes mount to the rack ... not sure which version though, as I think there are multiple versions of rack on the Espace3, its not an adjuster as such it only there to take out any slack when setting up the steering, but it mights cause the play you describe.

I'd wait a bit and see it the noise develops, as it will if its the bearing you'll hear it more as a groan as it wears ... variable with road speed, and esp. when you turn left or right.

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Hi Donald, Im sure there is an adjuster on the rack where the hydraulic pipes mount to the rack ... not sure which version though, as I think there are multiple versions of rack on the Espace3, its not an adjuster as such it only there to take out any slack when setting up the steering, but it mights cause the play you describe.

I'd wait a bit and see it the noise develops, as it will if its the bearing you'll hear it more as a groan as it wears ... variable with road speed, and esp. when you turn left or right.

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Cheers Truckbusuk this knock i discride it will only happen on a left hand turn when the weight is transfered to the drivers side and not when turning right and the weight transfers to the left side that way iam saying the wheel bearing????we will have to see
 

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Hi thanks to all who helped:) ,way is it that cars always hit you where it hurts and always when you dont have it,god iam so stressed out today:( F*** it
 

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Could it be the subframe working itself loose on one side?

You know, it'll probably be something really small like a bolt which is making its presence felt.

Hope you get to the bottom of it before you end up with the same amount of hair as me (i.e. none).

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Hi Donald it could be the strut top mounting bushes/bearings.

I'm sure one of the tech guys will be along to offer further advice shortly.

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Thank you gays iam going to have a wee look and get my hands dirty again today so fingers XXXX i get to the bottom of this iam hoping its the weel bearing thats tranfering this knock all about talk soon Donald.
 

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Donald, to check if it's the bearing, get someone to put their foot on the brake pedal while you "shake" the wheel and see if the play disappears. If it does then thhe bearing's goosed - if it doesn't then it's not the bearing.
My bus is in the garage today with a very similar fault and I've been "advised" it's the strut top bushes/bearings that are away ...... so we'll wait and see what the garage says :confused: My noise seems to get worse if I'm turning either way but only from the side that's "unloaded" if you know what I mean - turn right, it's from the right - turn left, it's from the left. It's not too much of a prob but the car is still under warranty so why should I just let it go ?
Hope you get to the bottom of it and remember if you need a hand just shout ;)
 
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Donald, to check if it's the bearing, get someone to put their foot on the brake pedal while you "shake" the wheel and see if the play disappears. If it does then thhe bearing's goosed - if it doesn't then it's not the bearing.
My bus is in the garage today with a very similar fault and I've been "advised" it's the strut top bushes/bearings that are away ...... so we'll wait and see what the garage says :confused: My noise seems to get worse if I'm turning either way but only from the side that's "unloaded" if you know what I mean - turn right, it's from the right - turn left, it's from the left. It's not too much of a prob but the car is still under warranty so why should I just let it go ?
Hope you get to the bottom of it and remember if you need a hand just shout ;)
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Hi Russ thanks for the advice thats why iam back to the nerve centre i have done as you said and other tests and i think for sure it is the wheel bearing that is transfering the knock through the car.The play on the front drivers side wheel is about 1-2mm but i guess the time it travels it makes the knock sound very bad.

Well i have just phoned my local Motor factors and they will have to order it in for Wednesday at the cost of £57 and thats with the VAT already on i could probley bet this but whats point i will just have to travel or pay a delivery charge, i have went ahead and ordered it.

I will give you more details later as iam away to strip it all ready for the new bearing to go in all the best Donald
 

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Another update

Well when i started to strip it all down this morning i started with the track rod end and i thought it might also be this so i went to my local Motor factors and got one at the cost of £20 and that included the VAT so i changed it and all seemed well until i got it all back together to find out STILL GOT THAT BLOODY PLAY AND KNOCK so i have to say the wheel bearing will be arriving in the morning so fingers XXXXX all the best Donald.
 
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