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Hi there.
Generally people have a right good moan in these forums about their woes and rightly so, this is an excellent knowledge base that can be used for the benifit of others. But please remember there are thousands of lags out there that have no issues and I for one think they are a great car for the money. They are dead easy to work on and have been mass produced on a production line and are not complex. Remember they are French (remember the 2CV and the DS19's? by Citroen) and therefore can be a bit quirky. I am not a Renault rep, far from it but I do like to look after my cars and I'm not afraid to have a go after all someone built them!

Just thought I'd give you an overview of my experiences and fixes for my Laguna 11 1.9dci 6 speed sports tourer. I bought my 02 three years ago for very little money with 50K on the clock now on 93000. I was after a Audi A6 Avant but for the money the Laguna was the best bet. Anyway below is a list of faults and fixes that I have sorted.
1. Elect windows not working or only go up and down a small amount - invairably the sunroof combined with the alarm system and gets confused. With ing on turn the sunroof knob fully clockwise and press and hold for 10 secs then turn anticlockwise press and hold for approx 10 secs and the sunroof will do some wacky adjustments then stop. Lock the car/unlock and all should be fine.
2. Front lower ball joints last about 25K, cheap and easy to replace, parts from GSF and you will need a good 24m ring spanner. If its the first time the joints will be riveted to the wishbone and will need to be ground off. Reckon on an hour a side.
3. Clonking from the back is the rear axle bushes, not hard to replace, did mine on the drive with car on good axle stands but needed a mate to help lift the axle back up. All done in about 4 hours including bleeding the brakes. Use a hacksaw from the inside of the joint to collapse the metal outer ring and smack out. Fitting, use some grease and work round the bush using a v large drift and hammer. Parts from GSF. £32.00 each.
4. Tyre sensors telling lies, disconnect the battery, remember radio code and leave disconnected for 10 mins, check and adjust pressures, reconnect battery and drive, it sorts its life out after a mile or so.
5. Key fob not locking car, replaced the fob battery? Still duff? from the rear seat and rear door open, lock the car using the console button get out and shut the door and the car will be locked. Use the small key to get back in and press the unlock on the console. Then buy another card from renault and get it programed, not that dear compared with VW/Audi fobs. Do not buy fobs of ebay, renault will not program them.
6. Sunroof not working, see latter half of para 1.
7. Use fully synthetic oil and renault filter every 9K and your turbo will be happy, if it all goes pete tong and engine runs away burning its own sump oil, dont panic! then select 4th gear pronto and and brake and stall the engine, saves engine. Dont panic! Replace turbo and thoroughly clean intercooler, pipe lines and EGR valve. Remove and clean EGR valve as part of service and clean out inlet manifold, all easy stuff. Add Forte diesel injection cleaner every 6 months, works great.
8. Seat covers on front cushions come loose, disconnect battery to disarm airbag system, remove seat, 4 bolts and re-thread cord at bottom and tighten, its a right ar*e to do but do it right with good para cord and your seats will be firm and supportive again. Refit seat etc etc.
9. Every intercooler should now have been replaced with the strapped type, I can't believe that there are still pre mod intercoolers out there, but if your car just stops and has zero power, your intercooler has split, about £150 ish for the part and fitting a couple of hours.
10. Use an independent trusted garage, I used one to change the cambelt at 72K coz I did not have the set up tools for the deisel, total cost inc renault parts £136.00 check that against renaults price!
11. If you have any dash lights that tell you stuff, get your independent garage to pull the codes on his trusted laptop and ask him to reset, normally works as elect gremlins do happen.
12. Crunchy 3rd gear when cold?, well just live with it, I very rarely use it when underway.
13. Drive the car hardish, gives the turbo something to think about and keeps the EGR valve moving.
14. Switch the girly off, drives me nuts!
15. Rear screen breaks, normally caused by the wiper spindle starting to seize and the torque on the spindle pre stresses the screen and then bang. Just fix the spindle or pay your £50 excess.
16. Shop around for tyes, a local independent tyre company that I have used for years charges me £50 a corner, not bad me thinks.

Must have done lots more and saved myself a fortune on bills plus the satisfaction of doing the job myself. Hope this helps someone - time for a beer:)

Mark
 

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Great post, Mark, just bought Lag 1.9 sport tourer with the clonking rear end you've just settled my worries regarding this!
I've owned two lag series 1 and a 21 Savanah so I understand why you like them!

Many Thanks

Phil R
 

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Great post, although it seems like you've had more than your fair share of problems; that list for one car reads like my entire history of problems in 20 years motoring! I'd also disagree that they're dead easy to work on, true, they aren't difficult as such, but any car that's quicker to replace the alternator than a headlight bulb has serious design issues imo. :) And, while on the subject, I've never replaced so many bulbs in a winter in my life, it may only be 3, but it's about 2 more than I'd expect.
 

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Markorolo

All I can say is Well Done and what a post. As fellow Laguna 11, 1.9dci owner, spot on and I liked the Laguna so much I bought my Wife one (or did she tell me?).


It's like everything in Life at the moment, there's to much negitive Information, good to hear some Positive
 

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hi ,

Glad you are happy with your Lag 2 , but i just got to say the way you describe it sounds easy , what about the cost of some of the repairs especially the blown turbo bit and some of the other stuff you describe... one of the main reasons the lag2 has such a high depriciative value and one of the worst for consumer satisfaction is the turbo blowing. :mad: :mad:
Yes they are a great car to drive and me personally am delighted with mine (3lt V6) initiale not having any trouble for past two years.
Not having a go at you my friend its just you make it sound so easy . :d :d :d

Chakota ;)
 

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Thanks for the response

Hi

Thanks for all the response! Just a couple of things I would like to point out though. I bought my Laguna after it had depreciated like a stone and therefore was excellent value for money. A couple of years ago a friend of mine was very tempted in buying a laguna just like mine but with a wad of cash bought an Audi A6 1.9 Avant new :crazy: It was serious money from Audi in Chester, he has had real problems and the car although still under warranty has been off the road far longer than my laguna plus all the grief, I guess my lag if you add all the hours together has had 5 days work carried out on repairs (forget routine stuff). So never mind the marque everyone has duffers! I'm sorry if I make it sound easy but as a enlisted member of the RAF for the past 32 years as an aircraft engineer you want to try and work on Search and Rescue Sea King helicopters that require average of 30 man hours maintenance for every flying hour, yep no mis-print correct. Thats why I say Lagunas are easy!!:d :d :d

Great stuff boys and girls

Mark
 

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Congrats on your 32 years service aswell, 5 left? Tasty pension awaits, glad to see you're not afraid to still have a go, many people are put off by the engine covers; they think there is a mysterious world of magic under there, personally, I've always taken things apart to see how they work - not very much has actually changed in 30 years. :)
 

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What you've gotta remember is its a car forum where users come to when they have problems, most of the time you don't get people posting up saying "I love my laguna" therefore it can tend to give you an overly negative view at times ;)
 

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Hi

I do know what you mean! Lets face it, this excellent knowledge base is what its all about, yes we all know that the Lag can have serious off days but certainly talking about it helps and there is loads of helpful people out there that are always willing to help out when they can. I have fallen into the trap of logging on every day just to see if I can help! (Bit sad really:rolleyes: ) But Its people like us that make the ownership a bit more bearable.

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Mark
 

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Hi

I do know what you mean! Lets face it, this excellent knowledge base is what its all about, yes we all know that the Lag can have serious off days but certainly talking about it helps and there is loads of helpful people out there that are always willing to help out when they can. I have fallen into the trap of logging on every day just to see if I can help! (Bit sad really:rolleyes: ) But Its people like us that make the ownership a bit more bearable.

Regards

Mark
Mate my first post was about a problem in Jan 06, I still have the same (fixed) car and I'm still here trying to help where I can. I think the secret is it's not just about cars, theres banter and a feeling of community amongst the users. It's addictive but worthwhile.
 
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