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Hey Guys,

I need some help with this MOT failure. My Clio MK2 2000 has failed MOT for "Track Rod End Ball Joint has excessive play offside
(poss tie rod also) [2.2.B.1f]"

So I decided to sort it out myself. Today I was inspecting the Track End Ball Joint after removing the offside wheel, the problem is
I am not sure whether it need replacing as I could not feel any play at all. I had the car on a jack so may be that why.

I also tried to move the wheel wheel while it was grounded and still there was no play

My first question is for this failure reason can it only be detected by specialist equipment?

Second when apart from removing the wheel and checking for play on the, are there any other methods of checking?


Below Youtube clip of inspection

 

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You won't find play just touching it. The garage will have given it some serious pulling / pushing. Just like the hammer it will get in driving.
Looks old enough the be toast. for £5 each, I'd change both sides. For safety's sake.
 

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Thanks Nottnoc,

I'm going to get them changed. It is shame there is no way to confirm on my own that the play is excessive.

I have ordered the parts on ebay and a removal tool. Should get it done by next week.
 

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hi


you should have tried Euro car parts - a lot of branches are open Sundays. You could have got'er done today then.
:nerd:
Al
 

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A small crowbar between track rod and the mounting bracket will usually show any play.
Putting wheel back on hub will also give more leverage and more chance of seeing or feeling play.
Check for play on inner tie rod joints as well, it may be there and the inspector hasn't detailed that.

Removal Tool ?
Must admit mine is a hammer.
Loosen nut well off but don't remove.
Crowbar to lever rod down by joint.
Sharp smack on bracket.
Should pop taper out of bracket but rod stopped from going too far by nut.

When you unscrew old end from track rod, count the turns. Screw new one back on same number.
Will not remove need for tracking but will get you in right sort of place.
 

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Thanks Nottnoc,

I'm going to get them changed. It is shame there is no way to confirm on my own that the play is excessive.

I have ordered the parts on ebay and a removal tool. Should get it done by next week.
Chances are when you were driving there would be a slight knock coming from the side MoT tester failed it on ...not always the case though
 

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A small crowbar between track rod and the mounting bracket will usually show any play.
Putting wheel back on hub will also give more leverage and more chance of seeing or feeling play.
Check for play on inner tie rod joints as well, it may be there and the inspector hasn't detailed that.

Removal Tool ?
Must admit mine is a hammer.
Loosen nut well off but don't remove.
Crowbar to lever rod down by joint.
Sharp smack on bracket.
Should pop taper out of bracket but rod stopped from going too far by nut.

When you unscrew old end from track rod, count the turns. Screw new one back on same number.
Will not remove need for tracking but will get you in right sort of place.
I didn't you could use a hammer. Could have saved me £15.00. Oh well.

I have a crowbar laying around somewhere I will try that.

I will be getting the parts tomorrow. So the job should be done tomorrow as well.
 

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Don't be tempted to hit the nut what ever you do.
 
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