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Hi All

I have a 62 plate Grand Scenic, 1.6 petrol. A few weeks ago it stalled at a roundabout and an error of "ESC off" came up. It would not restart and this error "ESC off/On" kept appearing. I eventually got it moving, but had to keep it above 2000 rpm otherwise it stalled again.
After that I got battery charging messages, and generally it was starting badly. I then got the "pollution sensor" engine warning, and I took it to a garage who plugged in ODB reader and the error read
"A camshaft position - timing over - advanced or system performance bank 1".
I was told only Renault garage could fix, so its going in today.
That error has come and gone for past 2 weeks, sometimes the car starts great and sometimes its poor. There is a bit of oil by the camshaft sensor but not a lot. The oil in general is not great, bit of residue in the dip stick, which could be cause I dont drive it far everyday.

Any ideas what this could mean, what they need to do to fix, and costs? Thanks
 

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It's pointing to a dephaser (camshaft timing solenoid valve )issue.
 

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ESC is NOT the escape button, but a more common, Modern affliction.
As you have said, you are only doing short journeys. Therefore your battery NEVER gets fully charged. The Auto STOP / START, which is a stupid emissions reducer, hammers the battery system. So if all your short journeys are in Traffic. It turns itself off, to allow the battery to recover. Hence the ESC / Battery messages. If you can, turn it off permanently, until you've done a decent trip. It may save the planet but not you from the costs of replacement batteries, alternator & Starter motor.
Just my 2d.
 

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Can they be turned off, sorry just being nosey, didnt think Electronic stability control, (ESC) could be turned off the newer cars.
 

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Can they be turned off, sorry just being nosey, didnt think Electronic stability control, (ESC) could be turned off the newer cars.
Ooops, I thought ESC was the Economy Start / Stop.
Can't afford motors THAT new. :frown2:
My Bad. However, in retrospect, it's probably The Auto start / stop vs short trips that's Causing the ESC & Battery nags.
 

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Hi it doesn't have start/stop so cant be that am afraid.
good old Renault garage have had it for "diagnostic" checks which have gone from £47 to £180 in the space of 2 hours, and they haven't even fixed the problem yet. Could be camshaft sensor, could be solenoid, could be actual camshaft?
Not looking forward to final bill.
 
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