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Thought I'd pass this on as it will probably happen to some of you due to the problem....

I'll continue.

After coming back from a 2 week holiday the engine would turn over but not fire up.
AA called and after 'wiggling' the plug that goes into the coil it started. He wrapped it in tape as a temporary measure and I called my trusty independent Renault mecahnic to sort a new plug for me. He gives me the bad news that it's part of the loom and I'd have to source one from a breakers and he'd fit it. He pops over anyway (good bloke) and pulls the plug apart to find the three wires a bit loose so crimps them tight and HEY PRESTO the car starts fine!
I drive to work a few hours later, everything fine.
Finish in the morning, get in the car and it won't fire up, just turns over and over!
AA called and he plugs in the laptop, problem is a dead crank sensor. Get towed home.
Buy sensor next day, mechanic fits it with new gearbox oil as well (second gear was getting stiff, now all sorted). He still has to 'wiggle' the plug to get it started though.....

Next morning, yep, same problem. AA called again and after 20 minutes of fault finding get towed to a French car specialist in Orpington, Kent.

They called me Monday to say it's all fixed, here comes the science.
It was two wires in the loom between the troublesome plug that ran underneath the airbox, they had almost broken causing the starting problem to be so erratic.
Three hours labour and a bit to the taxman comes in at £188 - I dread to think what a Renault dealer would charge, even if they found the problem!

According to the garage owner, the loom is in a great place to catch moisture and general abuse so it was just a matter of time. Oh joy, well done Renault.

Hope this can be of help to anyone else!

Steve.
 

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1.6 clio 8v trouble starting

hi, im a new member here, just wanted to know if someone could help me. My car seems to have similar problems to yours, one minute it will start fine, then next it wont start and sometimes can take 15mins to get her to fire. Just sits there with the engine cranking not firing. Someone said it could be the CTS (coolant temp sensor) or the TDC sensor..

any ideas guys?

im at a loss and cant really afford to take it to the dealer.

thanks

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Hi and welcome, try the TDC first, you can clean it yourself and there are some photos on the forum if you search for TDC problems. There is a FAQ section also under the articles tab.
 

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cheer Astrix, been out and cleaned the tip up with a file and wiped it with DW40 car started first time, tried it 20 times, works great.....thanks for the tip, i will get a new sensor and put it in the glove box

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Glad to hear you got it sorted and thanks for the positive feedback.:)

Renault have modified the TDC sensor and also the wiring loom - so you may need to buy both unles you are handy with the soldering iron:)
 

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yea ive just read something about that....one guy cut the 'fins' out of the old connector and it fits ok...but i can solder ok.....cheers would have been lost without you and this forum.


thanks again much appreciated

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my car wont start

Hi

Im new to this but i have almost the same problems as you.

The ignition turns on however the engine doesnt fire up, i doubt the battery is the problem as i have tried starting it with jumpleads but that failed. I have pushed started the car and it works. This seems to be the only way to start it. As soon as i turn the engine of, same method needs to apply.

I have a Clio II 1.4 16V
Can you help mate,

advance thanks
 

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Locate the TDC sensor, just below the air intake ducting above the flywheel end of the engine. LHS looking from the front/radiator area of the car. Find the wires going to the sensor and unplug and replug in the connection. If this doesn't fix the problem, undo and remove the TDC sensor and clean it with some electrical contact spray or metholated spirits or nail polish remover if desperate.
Apart from that I'm done:(
 

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im having almost the exact same problems. I have a M reg renault clio 1.4 RT and i over the last few days, i was experiencing a flashing light coming on and off very quickly on the handbreak sign. Then on saturday i was driving and the randomly cut out and would not start again. I tryed the ignition so many times but nothing seems to work. Im starting to think its the TDC sensor like many cases i have seen on the forums. What do you think?
any ideas are greatly appreciated
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Hi James. From way down here in convict land a diagnosis is difficult:d But.....give the TDC sensor ago and see what happens. Unplugging and reconnecting the sensor itself may help as there is proof the connections aren't 100% reliable. Also give the sensor a clean while you have it out and it may just solve the problem.
I doubt the sensor has died as it'd be the first I have heard of one actually dying as it's likely been connections or dirt that's 'killed' them in the past.
 

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alrite mate thanks a lot. I towed it back today with my dad and the batterys died and all sorts its just getting worse and worse lool
 

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I've been having intermittant starting problems and as I now live in France, and with the language difficulty I've been living with it. I just spray the tdc sometimes with wd40 and hope it works. But recently a new, or maybe related problem means a trip to the garage I think. It reluctantly starts but won't idle. Just stops. Any ideas anyone?
I noticed an odd thing which may be something to do with it. The radio is asking for a code but I haven't disconnected the battery. In fact the battery was new last summer and since being fitted at the garage has not needed to be disconnected. I believe an idle control may not reset after disconnection but am very non technical, and anyway it wasn't disconnected
 

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Bit of a puzzle as to how the radio would think there has been no power and drop the code. Does the car still start after this has happened?
Perhaps the radio fuse is suspect or loose in it's socket?

------Do you get any alternator warning lights at all?
If the battery is relatively new, yes it may fail. Have the battery and alternator checked professionally if you are not sure.
------One way to check at home yourself is if you can get hold of a volt meter, check the power of the battery with everything turned off. Should be over 12.5v+ for a healthy battery. Turn on all lights and see what the volts drop to. If they drop to around 10v, there is a problem.
Next step, leave volt meter connected and start the car, leave lights off and see what the volts read at idle then rev the car to about 2500rpm(may need help to do this) and see if the volts rise up to about 14 or so. If they don't rise at all by 2500rpm then the alternator is likely stuffed, causing the battery to lose charge when you drive.
 

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Hi,

I am new to the forum but have spent some time searching for the problems that i am experiencing but have failed to find any identical.

I drive a renault Clio mk2 Y reg and am having problems when starting. After some research I am thinking it may be problems with immobiliser but all the solutions i have read about have failed to work. First problems were found when key unlocked doors as normal but car would not even turn over. Dash lights up as normal and immobiliser light goes off but nothing.
After a 20minute wait car started as normal. I had done nothing but keep trying it
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Car worked fine for two weeks until next time keys unlock doors but immobiliser light flashes fast and cuts out the engine as soon as it fires or on other occasions it doesn't even fire. Can this be the same problem with diffferent symptoms or do i have two problems on my hands?

Both keys have same issues with working sometimes and not others. I have changed batteries in both and now one will never start the car and the other key will most times but not everytime.
I have tried re-syncing keys, removing fuse 21 also and all of these things work 'every now and then. ' But some times i find myself stranded for a while.

Sometimes i notice the car does seem to turn over very slowly sometimes but starts fine so could battery be dying?
All of these problems seem to occur randomly and dont seem to occur with similar temparture/weather or times of day.

I would appreciate any help people can give me as I am very close to going the expensive ranault dealer route.

Many thanks

Sam
 

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Hi I have just come on the forum to share my thoughts on this Clio bad starting as I have had (past tense) the same issue - but now my car starts hot, cold, sun, rain 1st kick. in fact the performance is the best its ever been now over 4 weeks.
Anyway having just fixed my laguna EGR issue having working though all the forum links and getting serious ear ache from the family about the starting - 15minute etc, I had the Brain Clio Wave - throttle body - I gave this a very good clean paying particlar attention to what I believe is the air bypass for tickover, this seems to be solenoid operated and I used a carbon cleaner product to ensure the seat is not blocked from both side of the housing. (make sure all the solvent has gone before refitting) on refitting it started 1st kick and has done so ever since.
 

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Hi, just got back home after a very nice RAC man fixed my clio.
About four weeks ago I had intermittant starting problems and after changing the TDC sensor for the new blue type with the new part of the loom the car has been fine.
I went out today shopping and done about 40 miles and on the way back home stopped outside a local hardwear shop, when I came out the car refused to start, I tried the connector on the TDC sensor and coil pack, the reset switch but to no avail.
I phoned the RAC, the mechanic checked and found I had no spark and also no injection pulse.
He checked fuses then went to another holder below the fuse block in the engine bay on the right side behind the headlamp, it had three relays on it, two of the side by side and one by itself, he swapped the one by itself which he said was for aircon which is not fitted on the car but they put the relay there anyway, with one of the two side by side and the car started ok.
He said it was a common fault with starting problems and along with replacing the TDC sensor I should replace the two ignition relays as well, I think they are dealer only and the number on them is :- 7700414484.
Hope this helps someone out
 

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hi been trying yesterday for an hour to get madnoel10 no joy. This site is as bad as the car, cant work it LOL. My Renault Clio Grande is also having starting problems. It used to start like a dream for 10 years! Now it SOMETIMES wont start unless I put foot on accelerator. It also is doing the same old same old, cutting out SOMETIMES at idle. Guess its all the faulty wiring??
 
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