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Generally I am very pleased with my Scenic II 1.9dci (unlike some here admittedly) and have, so far, had 24k miles trouble free, economical and comfortable miles (probably tempting fate!).

However, it is sold as a 5/7 seat family car and I actually wonder if the designers ever used it as such :confused: .

Just out of interest - what are people's views on its practical use.

There has been a long thread about the difficulty of using child seats; to this I would add:

- luggage cover; there is nowhere to put this in 7-seat use which means if you use the rear seats only occasionally you either have to leave it at home permanently (leaving your large luggage area open to view) or ask your passengers to have the cover on their laps if you are using the rearmost seats

- rear floor boxes - can't be opened if the front seats are right back (which they will be for even a moderately tall driver) which makes them redundant

- boot floor - lovely short pile nylon covering which is more slippery than an ice rink; I've just become accustomed to the noise of luggage/tool box sliding around

- standard puncture repair kit - I paid the extra for a "get you home wheel" - the thought of getting a puncture in the sidewall (or any other that the foam won't fix), miles from home with a car full of kids is just too horrible to contemplate

Any more?

A bit of a shame as these should have been noticed in the test stage, especially if Renault had done decent market research in the relevant sector.

Still prefer the car to the VW Touran though which looks, sounds and drives like a Transit van.
 

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Yes the Grand Scenic I felt was rushed into production and , Some of the failings you mention have being addressed in the latest version but still to compromised for my liking, But I have found most so called seven seaters to be the same tho the newer generation coming on stream now from most of the manufacturers are better but still a compromise unless you go for the much larger hence more expensive models.

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Hi Andrew, we've got a total of 5 in our little clan, 1 who is still in her rather large child seat, 1 who's in a booster seat and 1 who's 13 and almost as tall as me and the missus.

We find the Grand perfectly suited to all our needs. If we're carrying another 2 people, it just means a wee bit shuffling of the seating arrangements.
We put the load cover along the floor in front of the 2nd row of seats when we're not using it. Not ideal I agree, but better than having it lying across folks lap.
Can't say we've ever had the front seats far enough back as to render the rear floor boxes useless - you must be very tall.
I bought the Renault carpet for the boot as I didn't like the colour/finish of the original. It just sits on top of the original. I'm not in the habit of carrying much loose stuff in the boot, but I do find not much moves about on this carpet - I'll dig out the part number if you want it.
We got our car supplied with the "spare" tyre so don't have any experience with the pump and bottle of goo.
I agree they could've put a wee bit more thought into some parts of the design, but I suppose almost everything has to be a comprimise in some way eh ?
All in all we're very happy with our bus :d
 

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Hi Andrew,

Agree with most of what Gonescenile said. I think its ideal as an occasional 7 seater. I use the extra seats only occasionally, but have had 6 teenagers + driver on 140 mile round trip. They can get reasonably comfy if all seats are compromised. Middle and front seat seats moved forwards. If I needed them all the time I would buy a full 7 seater.
I'm 6'4" and agree, if I'm driving no way, the floor box behind me can be accessed, but don't see you could ever get round that.
The sales rep also instructed me to place rear parcel shelf on floor in front of 2nd row seats, behind passengers legs and this works fine.

Agree on carpet, small stuff ends up in dip below rear seats, but all cars in general have this problem with stuff sliding around back. Rubber luggage mats are available from most car diy stores and would help.

Re the tyre I have the goo. It does concern me, recently had a slow puncture and tempted to use but I had time to get into Kwik Fit. I'm glad i went there quickly, they told me if I had used the tyre sealant, the tyre cannot be repaired and they quoted me £120 for replacement Michelin. Seriously considering buying spare kit.

I had a first generation Zafira before this and Grand Scenic is better, but every generation of these type of cars just gets a little bit more clever. The S Max is newer as is the new Picasso, so again they have moved things further forward.
 

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Hi, I too have had little trouble with my grand scenic (tempting fate again) to date. Bought 2005.

The 7-seat configuration does get used when the grand parents visit and is practical, but only just. Thankfully this only occurs 2 or 3 times a year. On the flip side, the four-seat configuration I find ideal for extra luggage space (holidays etc).

I find the method of switching the trip computer from MPH to KPH a bit fiddly (annoyingly my wife can do this no problem), I'm usually trying to do this whilst waiting in the queue for the Eurotunnel, so no pressure! Getting glances from neighbouring cars coz I keep stopping and starting then engine. :)

Sorry if I just highjacked.
 

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For me the Grand scenic is very practical and thought out if its what you want.

as said before the luggage cover can go on the floor behind 2nd row passengers feet.

i guess the rear floor boxes can be a problem but unless you and your partner are both over 6 foot then there are two of them.

i dont find the boot floor a problem and most boots have carpet anyway. you can always buy the cargo net which is not that expensive anyway.

most cars these days do not have a spare wheel anyway and if you buy new a spare wheel is on the options list. or join the aa.

i had a Seat Alhambra before and we decided to downsize like someone said if you need 7 seats all the time then buy a full 7 seater, i had to keep removing a rear seat as there was no boot space so G scenic is good as they fold away.

i am very happy with the G scenic and think renault done very well and know what people want.

i did consider the touran but it looks like postman pats van and is as boring as anything.

just because a car does not fit you does not mean it does not work.
 

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My wife and I have been looking for a 7-seat replacement to our 98 Scenic I, for about 18 months. No hurry, so it's taken a while :)

We looked at everything with 7 seats. Having bought the Scenic I brand new, we planned to do the same again. After a short list of Grand Scenic, Touran, and S-Max, we decided on the S-Max. But we eventually decided to keep the Scenic I , and bought a Grand Scenic too. A 3 year old Grand Scenic for £6K, instead of something new for £20-£22K :d

One thing we both looked at with ALL 7-seaters was the luggage cover. None of them really seemed to consider what to do with this. Almost all of the sales reps just said "leave it at home". But what about the times when a young playmate unexpectedly decides to come back home with you. Great, just get the 6/7th seat out, perfect. But where does the luggage cover go?

I've just found this in the user manual (image attached)

Nice idea, but I'm obviously not smart enough to fit it into both sides. Maybe the 2007 version is slightly different to my 05 reg. But using one compartment does allow you to store the cover behind the 3rd row of seats.
 

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The espace is not much better for staring the luggage cover tbh! The places you can store it hinder leg room and access, We put the load cover along the floor in front of the 2nd row of seats when we're not using it.

It is one of the few draw backs to owning a 7 seater!
 

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Had my grand Scenic coming up 3 yrs now , she's superbly practical , luggage cover when in 7 seat mode sits behind the ankles of the second row passengers with "tail" pointing up totally out of way. Luggage net in boot stops stuff ratting around and cheap tarpaulin covers boot carpet for mucky loads and reaches up sides of boot for even more protection! Seats 6 & 7 are really for smaller bodies fit adults can be accomodated but if u need a permanent 7 seater buy a bus!
Second row seats tumble forward and if needed lift out to create van like space. (almost 2 mts end to end) front passenger seat back folds forward to handle even longer items. We camp and boat and boot in 5 seat mode swallows a folded 12 ft inflateable rib and 5hp 4 stroke outboard engine (in joke what came first- car or boat!) with room for more stuff.
Cannot recommend the Renault roofrack though! its pricey and only Renault accessories (also pricey) will fit it - its too broad for u-brackets and the slot in the top is recessed to stop most T- track fittings being combined with it - if buying again would buy Thule for more versatilty
No bother with underfloor lockers, front seats have to be well back to stop use and cooled glove box superb for cold beers - -center console cubby hole also takes indian / chinese takeaway meal cartons perfectly. Front Door pockets hold 2 lt bottles of milk but can't find anywhere to put the cornflakes for breakfast. (yes have bivvied in it to catch the tide when surfing (the wet, cold stuff not the web)
Only real gripe is low towing weight of the car compared to other people carriers. Have yet to find something that defeats the car!
Could that be a new Thread - "Beat the Grand Scenic?"
 

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Grande scenic not so practical!

Hi i have a 2005 grande scenic Which yes i agree with certain areas you have mentioned, especially the spare wheel (or lack Of) & the parcel shelf storage But i do think it is far more practical than a zafira or touran! I purchased a full size second hand wheel & tyre Which i take in our roof box when we go on long trips as a precaution. as you suggest it would not be pleasant having to wait for recovery for the sake of a puncture miles from home!
 

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Hi all, I have a 54 plate G Scenic, and find it to be a very practical car indeed, for something that I think is only intended to be an occasional 7 seater.

Luggage cover - All 7 seats in constant use, so cover left on top of cupboards in garage, though would aggree that it could be placed on floor in front of row 2 seats.

Row 3 seats - As mentioned, think they are only meant for occasional use, but ours are used constantly due to 5 young kids. My only gripe being where seat belt goes in to side panel of car, though this has been redesigned on later models. Fold flat system very clever and really easy to use, and creates loads of space when folded.

Row 2 seats - Very versatile, and again, easy to fold flat and adjust. Good idea they can be tilted forward or removed completely, which is done occasionally to take stuff to the local tip. I find the seats very easy to remove, though a smaller person may struggle slightly.

Underfloor storage - Can be difficult to access with front seats fully back, though having decent size door pockets and the sliding centre console, we do not need to use the underfloor storage on a regular basis. Seat back tables an absolute godsend for the kids and their colouring books.

Storage general - An abundance of storage spaces. Large front door pockets, decent size rears, cooled glove box for kids drinks, large sliding centre console with two storage compartments, 4 x underfloor storage spaces, 3 x storage spaces in boot sides and space underfloor in boot behind row 3 seats. Ample enough for our needs.

Dash - Very well laid out, easy to read and sloping windscreen gives the feeling of a vast amount of space. Climate control system easy to use, set it at 19 or 20, press auto and let it do its stuff.

All in all we find it to be a very practicl car, and we got it cheap from cyprus as well, so can not complain really :)

Would recommend it to anyone who asks.
 

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I'd say check out the other available makes and choose wisely - these Scenics dont have a particularly good standard of build quality which is why I think they cheaper than others - IMHO of course!:d

I've had an 07 plater for over a year....for gadgets and hideaways its cool!.....but feel they could do better!
 

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Hi all, I have a 54 plate G Scenic, and find it to be a very practical car indeed, for something that I think is only intended to be an occasional 7 seater.

Luggage cover - All 7 seats in constant use, so cover left on top of cupboards in garage, though would aggree that it could be placed on floor in front of row 2 seats.

Row 3 seats - As mentioned, think they are only meant for occasional use, but ours are used constantly due to 5 young kids. My only gripe being where seat belt goes in to side panel of car, though this has been redesigned on later models. Fold flat system very clever and really easy to use, and creates loads of space when folded.

Row 2 seats - Very versatile, and again, easy to fold flat and adjust. Good idea they can be tilted forward or removed completely, which is done occasionally to take stuff to the local tip. I find the seats very easy to remove, though a smaller person may struggle slightly.

Underfloor storage - Can be difficult to access with front seats fully back, though having decent size door pockets and the sliding centre console, we do not need to use the underfloor storage on a regular basis. Seat back tables an absolute godsend for the kids and their colouring books.

Storage general - An abundance of storage spaces. Large front door pockets, decent size rears, cooled glove box for kids drinks, large sliding centre console with two storage compartments, 4 x underfloor storage spaces, 3 x storage spaces in boot sides and space underfloor in boot behind row 3 seats. Ample enough for our needs.

Dash - Very well laid out, easy to read and sloping windscreen gives the feeling of a vast amount of space. Climate control system easy to use, set it at 19 or 20, press auto and let it do its stuff.

All in all we find it to be a very practicl car, and we got it cheap from cyprus as well, so can not complain really :)

Would recommend it to anyone who asks.
You'll soon need one of these mate. I can thoroughly recommend it!:d

 
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