Hi, I have a number of Renaults, including the massively under-rated Safrane and an Alpine A610. Was just looking for info on a heater problem I have with the Safrane and stumbled across the site. Haven't had a memorable problem with the Safrane in 8 years of ownership and it is a hell of a car for not a lot of money. The A610 is my toy and my absolute pride and joy. Love both cars for completely different reasons, both are an individual choice!