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Hi everyone

I have a Scenic, from what Ive read on here its a mark 1, phase 2, an Xreg 2.0.

I do a fair few miles in it, and in a very hilly area About a week ago it started losing power up a very steep hill and I only just made it to the top. Then it started kind of slowing down when pulling away from lights etc, and generally got more sluggish.

Yesterday it stopped on a hill and seemed not able to change gear, was "screaming":confused: and then wouldnt move forward at all. I had to keep putting it in reverse, then go forward a bit at a time to get home.

I managed to get to a local garage this morning, they drove it briefly then said the clutch was gone, that it was a huge job due to the engine having to be removed, taking a lot on man-hours. They said the cost of having the work done would be more than the cars worth, around 1500 to do it!:eek: They advised me to scrap it or sell it for parts.

Im lost without the car, Im disabled and rely on it heavily. Is this right advice do you think? And if I sell it for parts, how much should I ask for it? I will need another car fast, and cant afford much, so have to get as much as I can for this one if possible.

Should I go somewhere else today for a 2nd opinion or should I just sell it fast?

Thanks a lot.

Kay.
 
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£1500 for a clutch fit? Far too expensive. :eek:

It is a long job, but shouldn't be more than 5 hrs. The clutch is about £150 + 5 hrs at £50 = £400.

I'm sure somebody with more accurate figures will chip in.

To do a simple clutch test, try this. put the handbrake on HARD and try to move forward in 2nd gear. If your clutch is as bad as it sounds, the car will not move.
 

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hi, thanks for your reply.

its an automatic, will that make any difference? I just choose D2? thanks.
 

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hi, thanks for your reply.

its an automatic, will that make any difference? I just choose D2? thanks.
Auto with clutch? More like your autobox needs attention. Try another garage. If they said it's clutch on auto they better start selling pizzas!
 
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An automatic doesn't have a clutch.

Look for an automatic gearbox specialist near you, but the cost is going to be quite high I suspect.


I sold my 1999 phase 2 Scenic, which had a few extras on it, for £350 recently because the cambelt had broken. It was going to be broken for spares.

A similar aged Scenic with a duff autobox isn't likley to fetch any more.
 

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:rolleyes:I shouldve known that! Duh:eek:

I,ll find another garage and see what they say.
I have breakdown cover as part of my insurance with rac, but apparently they wont come out because its outside my home, according to what Ive read?

If anyone can advise, I,ll be very greatfull.
 
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Depends on the policy. Some are recovery only, which means they will take you on the onward journey or to a garage.

It can depend how far you are from home, perhaps you could get it towed down the road?

Or call them and find out what your cover is.
 

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thanks for your help. I called them and it is only recovery with rac.

Im a bit confused though. I mentioned to a friend about the car not having a clutch, and he said of course it has, all automatics do, just not a clutch pedal:confused:

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thanks for your help. I called them and it is only recovery with rac.

Im a bit confused though. I mentioned to a friend about the car not having a clutch, and he said of course it has, all automatics do, just not a clutch pedal:confused:

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Instead of having a clutch automatic cars have a thing called a torque converter which uses automatic transmission fluid (oil) which transmits power to the gearbox.

Some old auto gearboxes have internal clutches but these are not the same as you get in a manual car clutch.

The type of automatic gearbox in your Scenic is the DPO type and you only have to do a search here on the forum to read that the DPO gearbox can be quite problematic.

You only have to look on Ebay to see that after timing belt failure automatic gearbox problems is probably the next most common reason that Scenic's get sold for spares or repairs.

Demand is therefore high and the price of a good second hand automatic gearboxes tends to be high as well. So unless you can get a reasonably priced 2nd hand gearbox fitted or the gearbox repaired at reasonable price sadly it's probably time to start looking for a new car.

As ourcar has suggested you probably can't expect to sell the car for much more than £350 unless your car is extremely low milage or above avarage condition .
 

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:d Thanks a lot, thats made it all a lot clearer.

I think Im going to have to go down the repair route:( as I dont have the cash to buy a new car. Can anyone recommend a good garage in the Redfield or Kingswood Bristol area where they can supply & fit a 2nd hand gearbox, where I wont get ripped off once they see a lone woman coming in:eek:

Maybe if I can find a good garage, they might find its not as bad as I think, & can repair it?:confused:

Even if I sell it for 300 approx, for spares, I wouldnt have enough to get another car anyway, so Im really in trouble right now. Im pretty much housebound untill I get transport.

Thanks again for all your help.
 
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Gloucester Road Gearboxes are often mentioned, not sure how good they are though.
 

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ok, thanks for that.

I think Im afraid of being ripped off (it happened before and cost me a lot!) because Im on my own and obviously dont know anything about cars.

Can I ask, is there any chance it could be something simple like oil or something? Ive read about renaults being "sealed for life", but wondered (or praying:( ) that it might be that?
 
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Even if it where a simple case of low oil that would mean you have a leak.

Yes your right these gear boxes are sealed for life however to top them up is a very involved process requiring the use of diagnostic equipment the gear box is topped up and then the oil that runs out has to be caught and measured so that the relevant figures can be entered into the gearbox ECU. So it really is a main dealer job IMO unless you can find an independent garage that has an extremely good knowledge of Renaults.

I'm not sure if the solenoid valves are accessible on the outside of the gearbox? if the problem lies there?
 

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Oh:(

Would that still be very expensive then?

I really dont know what to do now:confused: If I pay a lot for a diagnosis, and then still have to get rid of it, thats even more money I can ill afford.

Maybe I should just get rid of it? Would I be lucky to get 300 quid for it?:(

I dont know what to do.:crazy:

Thankyou.
 
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IMO what ever you do isn't going to be cheap :(

Maybe you could see about trading it in against another car?

To sell the car through Ebay or Autotrader could cost you up to £50 in fees:( though Gumtree is still free you might be lucky and get up to £400? though I would have said £350 might be closer the mark.
 

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Thankyou again.

Gumtree it is then:d

Unless anyone here needs a scenic for parts:cool::d
 
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or ebay will be £15 and put it on for spares/repair £400 or best offer. You can put up to 12 pix on free, so you can show people it's in good condition other than the gearbox.

I think most people reach for ebay when looking for anything these days.
 

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update

:crying::crying: Mechanic looked at it, just came back, its totally knackered. He showed me the oil he took out, there was hardly any in there anyway because apparently its been leaking since I bought it. No warning lights had come on because before it was sold to me they had removed something (fuse or sensor or something:confused:) so that no warning lights COULD come on! So they knew when they sold it to me that it would only last a certain time before packing up, it was just covered up:mad:

So, its off to be scrapped, and Ive no car and no money to get another.

Thanks for all your help though, I appreciate it.
 
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