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#1 ·
I drive Clio 1.2 Expression. After rainfall water collects in passenger side footwell and under rear seat squabs turning them into wet sponges. I've checked and cleaned the seals around the sun roof, doors, ariel, windows, boot and checked around the rear lights. With the rear seat cushions out and looking towards the back of the car, the water appears to be coming in around one of those nut type things with some sort of clamp over it, right hand side , furtherest away from you.(please excuse the non-technical definition) found by drying the area and dusting with talc. Can't find how it gets there though. HELP!!!
 
#6 ·
Clio water ingress.

Hi all. I have a clio in the workshop that has been driving me mad. I have taken the sunroof out twice and have no doubt in my mind that I have sorted the leak from it. It was finally traced to the two roof "end caps" that the drain tubes connect to. I had to break the bond on them and re-seal them as the water was creeping past what only renault could describe as "sealed". What a poor job they did. I then reassembled and refitted the sunroof and water tested the car. Hurraahhh I said, Its fixed. Customer pays me money and gets car back. Everybodys happy? Not quite. I had a call a week later saying that the rear footwell on the drivers side was soaking wet. After a few well chosen expleatives, I got the car back last thursday but have not had time to get onto it. I then saw a post saying that it came in "through a nut type thingy with a cap on it" Does anyone have any idea where this nut type thing is? I would like to get to the bottom of this asap as the customer has my car!
Regards
Steve
 
#8 ·
I have finally discovered the source of my wet rear passenger footwell today. I had the usual sunroof leaks above the sun visor etc and fixed this 2 months ago by completely removing the sunroof, cleaning, stripping and resealing with black sikaflex sealent. However, after driving in heavy rain i noticed the underside of the rear passenger mat was wet. I removed the rear seat cushions, peeled the carpet back and felt that the fibre under matting was drenched. I neatly cut out a section with a stanley knife and left to dry. I tried the door seals, sunroof, rear light clusters but could not induce the leak again when parked up. I got my son to hose the underside of the car and hey presto ! Niagra Falls appeared. There is a metal plug / bung half covered by the black sound deadening material in the rear footwell and when hosed directly underneath, the puddles poured in. I am waiting for it to dry out and then remove / reaseal before refitting carpets again. I have phone pics of said annoying feature of anyone needs them, then message me.
Regards, Phil and his soon to be drier Clio.
 
#13 ·
Just clean the rubber bung and the area where it fit's with some degreaser and when it's dry put some sealant round the edge and refit then smear some more sealant round the edges on both sides and leave it to dry and within an hour the sealant should be dry enough to keep the wet out but wont be fully cured for at least 24 hours mate .
 
#22 ·
on my 1.2 clio grande 2000, the rear drivers side footwell fills up with water. the drivers side seatbelt, the part under the trim when retracted, is also wet...but none of the roof lining seems wet. is there a drainage channel from the sunroof and does it go down the door pillar where the seat belt lies? how far off the floor is the seat belt reel?
 
#23 ·
Just in case you've not come across this:

http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=82644&highlight=clio+remove+seat

After taking the inner surround (pseudo-seal) and the glass to frame seal out, tape up the inner edges of the sunroof frame where they could possibly be sharp :confused:. Use duct tape:eek: I say this as I have just started 3 months' of physio to repair a sliced extensor tendon when doing this job a few weeks ago :crazy: Sods law, I was only double-checking the last bolt was tight, so I'd only just finished the job :d

My wife's car had this problem, with water in both footwells on the driver's side and dampness on the passenger side. Fixed the problem, the next one you'll come across is drying the carpets:

Best way to dry the carpets is to take them out, along with as much liner as you can. Pig of a job but, wife doesn't want me to do that :( so stuck with using moisture traps and keeping the car hot after vaxing it. It's going to take months before she realises she needs me to take the carpets out to do the job properly :mad:

Good luck, wear gloves if in doubt, haha - owch :eek:

Mike
 
#24 ·
Have this problem also. Don't have time to reseal the manual sunroof currently but have comprehensively Duct taped it up and the edges so as to prevent water ingress.

Mostly successful but the seatbelt when drawn, is still damp after rain (but I'm reasonably confident its not coming in from beneath the car as it happens when the car isn't used).

The door seals look fine - am wondering if its getting in somehow from the roof drains down the A pillar. Any suggestions gratefully received.

Thanks
 
#25 ·
Hey everyone! Im having the same problem with my wee DCI and its driving me insane! I have absolutely no idea about cars so any help would be appreciated! :D

I got my wee DCI in October and it has been sat on the drive as i am waiting to pass my test :)

On Sunday I happened to put my hand in the back and the ground was soaking behind the drivers seat and that is the only place around the whole car that is wet.

Yes my car has a sunroof and i have checked the drains and they werent blocked

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated! :D
xx
 
#26 ·
It will be the sunroof seal it is the smallest useless seal I have ever seen you have 2 choices take it out yourself or get a glass company to do it but it needs sealing with either a good silicone or sikaflex.
If you do it yourself wear gloves and you will notice that the bolts x 10 are not as tight as you would expect
 
#27 ·
as a temporary fix (also temporary to make sure that it was the problem) i used insulation tape (as in another thread on the same subject) to tape over between the sunroof frame and the car roof. it has stopped the water coming in and flooding the rear foot well. will wait until the weather is better to make a permanent repair.
 
#28 ·
Wife's car has similar problem for a few years now.
It is not the sun roof, Car does not have one.
Initially i thought it was water from the tray under the wipers, the drain clogs up easily on the driver (RHS) side, I also thought it may be Air Conditioning system draining back into the car. but water only comes in on one side and in back footwell only.

The door seal is intact, and drain/breather seal holes are not blocked.

Having stripped the door trim back:-
The window seals are not perfect, the rain that gets past the glass seals should run to the bottom of the inside of the door, and escape through the small drain holes in the bottom of the door.
The drains were not holding back water, the door trim was wet about half way up, the water must then dribble down to the wrong side of the door seal into the foot well.

The questions are:-
What is the water tracking across to get past the flexible seal?
How do i make the water tracking down the glass continue to the bottom of the door and drain away as designed?

This car has manual rear door window winders, i am assuming that the water was tracking along the winder shaft,

I have glued a plastic washer on the shaft, to try and persuade any water to drain down, not across.

Heres hoping
 
#31 ·
Rather pricey. It is a time consuming job, not difficult, just tedious.

The nuts can be tight if left to long with the leak, they will seize but, no need to use any DW40 or dismantling fluid, just a good 10mm spanner. First did it on my wife's Clio with a combination spanner not a ratchet type. No problems until I decided to overdo the very last bolt, slipped and sliced a tendon in my left index finger.

You must clean the surfaces well once the frame is removed. You must apply a generous bead of sealant (I used some guttering stuff I had lying around, won't harden fully but will seal it). You must be careful of sharp edges - the first time I wasn't, 6 months later and still sore. Gloves can be cumbersome and if you slip, they are a minor measure, get some thick duct tape and cover those sharp edges while you get on without worry of injury.

Other than that, if you're not so confident; using a non-ratchet spanner; like lots of cups of tea, etc, then it will take you around 3 hours (£50 an hour saved), otherwise 2 at most and done right, it will last the life of the car.

Mike
 
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