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Renault Master 2020 2.3 Auto DPF

2.4K views 19 replies 5 participants last post by  PGG  
#1 ·
Hi
Bought 2020 Master in September 2024. It was fine at purchase and for a couple of months. Check anti-pollution light then came on intermittently. Then came countdown to failure, 500 miles, which would go down to 400 miles and then go off. Then we got check injection. My mechanic has tried clearing faults and forced regen with some short term improvement. I then went to a dpf specialist who cleared faults and cleaned system through. This cleared everything for 3 days. We have also replaced noc sensor and soot sensor. All have worked for a short time. Yesterday after it being clear for 3 days and running well it was taken on a 600 mile motorway run. Stopped at services half way and lights came back on. So far we are at about £1600 and no progress. Now faced with replacing DPF. It strikes me that mechanics struggle to diagnose and just keep scanning and clearing faults which doesn't seem to work. If it is the DPF why didn't the ECU or scan tell us that at the beginning. Bad system design, would say avoid modern diesels if you can.
Any advice or comment appreciated.
 
#6 ·
Scan has shown a particle filter fault (for the first time)
?

What is that?

soot readings at 28.9g. My mechanic is now suggesting removal of DPF for a professional clean
Sorry but 29g in the DPF is nothing ...................... cannot see how a mechanic can possibly try to motivate a removal and cleaning action................ especially since you say its already been done.

He needs to start doing his job - he needs a scanner that can speak real-time live data on a Renault and inspect the DPF related parameters and progression of DPF content management during a trip.
 
#8 ·
As a mere user of vehicles and not a mechanic I find it very difficult to distinguish between mechanics who know what they are talking about and those that don't. Seems like everyone is trawling through you tube desperately trying to find a fix as it is all computer driven these days. Every single time we have had a sensor changed or clean done different fault codes come up after a 100 miles ish. So fault codes cleared, forced regen, noc sensor replaced, dpf clean at side of road, soot sensor replaced and still the lights come on. FFS :(
 
#9 ·
I would start here:

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If the engine is or has been running at the time of the scan, then you would expect temperatures in the order of 100s of C upstream of the DPF .....................

As long as this temperature is reported so low (for whatever reason) the auto regen of the DPF will NEVER either start or complete and will cause your miseries
 
#11 ·
I would say the best you can do now is to help yourself rather than rely on a bunch of yahoos taking your money for chasing codes only.

If you have access to a scanner, go drive the thing till nice and toasty, get somebody to capture ALL the ECU parameter values while you are doing constant around 50mph on a flat road.


When (time and distance covered since) was your last proper oil change ?

DPF regen will not happen with rubbish oil (safety issue) ............................ and if you have been struggling with DPF complaints for a while it may also be as simple as just changing the oil in addition to checking on that exhaust temperature
 
#14 ·
Thank you for this. This sounds correct for software update BUT current wait for an appointment with my local Renault commercial is around 3 MONTHS !!! And their service is atrocious. Last time i went to main dealer (Portsmouth) we booked it in for the day having driven 50 miles. At 3.30 they said they couldn't guarantee it would be done that day. 50 miles from home with no way of getting home !! I had no choice but to take it home without them doing their diagnostic scan which is all it was in for.
 
#16 ·
Irrespective of the possible offer by Renault of an improved ( :sick: ) software update, the basic design/operation of the DPF stays the same and I will bet the prerequisite of edequate safe CAT/DPF temperature and oil quality cannot be addressed via a software update ...................

IMO - it's fix what is already known to be an/the identified issue and then start grasping at straws by trying to chase codes only.

Snap-on makes quality scanners in my experience .................. CLIP is not necessarily going to do any better at all .................. its the scan-tool operator that is IMO screwing the pooch here.
 
#17 ·
There is known technical solutions and bulletins on the Renault systems depending on what codes are logged or messages/warning lights on dash. As you can see ,the snap on scanner is showing a fault code which it says refer to manufacturer, ie it is always best to use genuine diagnostic equipment.
 
#18 ·
UPDATE.
Having found a mechanic who seems knowledgeable on all things DPF he recommended an off vehicle clean. We have done this and it needed to be soaked overnight twice due to build up.
The problem was AD BLUE build up ! As this vehicle was driven very short distances for it's first 3 years it seems this is where the build up started.
All seems OK now, lights are off and performance improved. 🤞