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Hi, any update on this? Have a 2016 one doing the exact same, we've replaced radiator, thermostat & housing, water pump, bled the system 10 different times and it's still doing the same thing after 10 miles or so...Coolant not mixing nice & clean... About to tear down and check head gasket too...
 
Some bi-turbo R9Ms are prone to block cracking. Unexplained coolant loss could be a cracked block. Easy to do a preliminary check.
Someone above stripped the engine and didn't get back (I guess he wasn't too happy about what he'd found). The OP was/is about to. Both have bi-turbos I believe. Now the third owner joins the game - wondering if it's also a bi-turbo.
 
Hi, any update on this? Have a 2016 one doing the exact same, we've replaced radiator, thermostat & housing, water pump, bled the system 10 different times and it's still doing the same thing after 10 miles or so...Coolant not mixing nice & clean... About to tear down and check head gasket too...
Hi just wondering how you got in I've just bought a renalt trafic 67 plate and its got the exact same problem don't want to do the head gasket cause im told be better off doing a a new engine any advice on this would be great also dnt know whether to just keep driving the van until.it goes completely because never goes into limp mode or that
 
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I’ve been searching for an answer to my problem with very little clarity of what the problem could be, so I’ll try and explain. I have a Traffic 2015 138k 1.6 dci with a very peculiar overheating problem, When the engine is up to temperature the coolant is pressurised in the reservoir and leaks out from the filler cap and the heater blows cold. Replaced filler cap, auxiliary belt, the belt driven water pump, the thermostat, and the EGR electronic valve all for new, also had the 2nd EGR exhaust cooler bypassed at the back of the engine on the cooling side to eliminate a faulty cooler leaking emissions into the coolant system. Replaced coolant hoses for new. I’ve also had a combustion leak test done with a BT-500 Block tester. There are an additional 2 electronic water pumps, one under the radiator/engine and one under the battery housing. I’ve tested the voltage at the termination point at both of the pumps and they both have 12 volts dc. I have tried using the additive "Steel Seal Gasket Engine Block Repair" twice but with no positive results. When the van has been driven for at least 10 miles or so the engine light comes on saying "STOP" engine failure! it seems to be not circulating the coolant due to the pressure build up and or the cylinder head has gone, or it has a porous block also to note coolant is not being lost, only when the overheating occurs. No oil in the coolant, and no coolant in the oil. To note it’s the R9M450 engine. I really don’t want to take the head off just to find it’s not the head, only other option is the radiator blocked or perhaps a blockage in the block it’s self. I also removed the thermostat internals, I need to replace these as a hot water test proves it works fine, you may think why have I changed half the things above but Anti pollution check on the dash was the reason for the EGR which was seized in and had to be drilled out! And now it’s a merging that it’s a Bosch MAP Intake Manifold Boost Air Pressure Sensor which causes this so that’s the next thing to change, but if anyone knows the fix I’m all ears!
did you ever get to the bottom if this ? Also did you keep using the van through all the issue ? And if so how long for ? Cheers
 
This is what mine was doing. On first investigation it was suspected head gasket but Wasn’t showing as being combustion gas on the fluid type detectors.

bridged out egr cooler - no improvement
new pump and new thermostat - no improvement

Removed cylinder head, inspected block for crack - none found

sent head to be pressure tested - no leaks but head was warped, had to skim 8 thou off to get a true surface

rebuilt with fresh gaskets and timing chain and it seems to have fixed the coolant pressurisation issue

it should be understood that a warped head, or failed head gasket is more of a symptom than a cause of overheating issues these days. However , I have no idea what has caused the damage in the first place as Everything on the cooling system seems to be working as it should. I’m hoping that one of the components that has been replaced has been at fault and caused the overheating resulting in the head warping.
 
This is what mine was doing. On first investigation it was suspected head gasket but Wasn’t showing as being combustion gas on the fluid type detectors.

bridged out egr cooler - no improvement
new pump and new thermostat - no improvement

Removed cylinder head, inspected block for crack - none found

sent head to be pressure tested - no leaks but head was warped, had to skim 8 thou off to get a true surface

rebuilt with fresh gaskets and timing chain and it seems to have fixed the coolant pressurisation issue

it should be understood that a warped head, or failed head gasket is more of a symptom than a cause of overheating issues these days. However , I have no idea what has caused the damage in the first place as Everything on the cooling system seems to be working as it should. I’m hoping that one of the components that has been replaced has been at fault and caused the overheating resulting in the head warping.
Now we are getting somewhere - do you still have the originally removed head gasket? ................ Can you post up high-res pics of the animal's surfaces?

Incorrect torqued or damaged head bolt/s can cause this ............... and by the sounds of the reports here its causing cylinder compression to be chased into the water system somewhere or the failed head gasket is bypassing a critical coolant passage without allowing water into the oil.

Question - was a new set of stretch bolts used in the rebuild process?
 
Hi, any update on this? Have a 2016 one doing the exact same, we've replaced radiator, thermostat & housing, water pump, bled the system 10 different times and it's still doing the same thing after 10 miles or so...Coolant not mixing nice & clean... About to tear down and check head gasket too...
Hi everyone I had the same problem with coolent spilling out off the bottle cap stop light coming on 10 mins down the road . The fix was after a lot of investigation was a Half block interior rad when I disconnected the two pipes to interior rad and power hose it out for 10 mins everything returned to normal the water flow pressure normalised and no more leak form the bottle I also noticed a steady flow of coolant form the small pipe going into the bottle hope this help a someone andrew form cork
Hi, any update on this? Have a 2016 one doing the exact same, we've replaced radiator, thermostat & housing, water pump, bled the system 10 different times and it's still doing the same thing after 10 miles or so...Coolant not mixing nice & clean... About to tear down and check head gasket too...
Hi, any update on this? Have a 2016 one doing the exact same, we've replaced radiator, thermostat & housing, water pump, bled the system 10 different times and it's still doing the same thing after 10 miles or so...Coolant not mixing nice & clean... About to tear down and check head gasket too...
 
I also noticed a steady flow of coolant form the small pipe going into the bottle
Perfect - This behavior is a sort of "auto-bleeding" - any and all small bubbles (trapped or created at local hot spots) will eventually be automatically removed given normal use of the vehicle.

Let's hope that as we suggested earlier, all circulation routes were tested and cleared before the expensive head jobs were undertaken :unsure:
 
Now we are getting somewhere - do you still have the originally removed head gasket? ................ Can you post up high-res pics of the animal's surfaces?

Incorrect torqued or damaged head bolt/s can cause this ............... and by the sounds of the reports here its causing cylinder compression to be chased into the water system somewhere or the failed head gasket is bypassing a critical coolant passage without allowing water into the oil.

Question - was a new set of stretch bolts used in the rebuild process?
Just seen this now,

I Don’t have the original head gasket anymore but I could t see any obvious signs of failure on the gasket itself.

In m case water was not making its way to the oil and water wasn’t making its way into the combustion chamber.

new head bolts were installed during the rebuild
 
In my case I believe the warped head had created a weak point in the gasket seal that was just enough to allow the high compression of these engines to pass a small amount of gas past the gasket and into the water jacket but strong enough to retain the coolant in the cooling system even under pressure. The cooling system was also pressure tested during initial investigations and passed
 
I have a 2019 model vivaro which had these same coolant pressurising issues, I am still working out the system failures that allowed the head to become warped , believe I know, certainly in my case systematic cause leading to said failure ... when confirmed I will post up as ive gathered a lot of evidence as ive been doing mine. I'm an engineer and bought my van with suspected turbo faults.. Did turbos as I was getting white smoke with a coolant smell after running for 15mins or so.. After I'd done the turbos and egr cooler I ran the van short distances to check that I had no smoke anymore... problem solved I thought.. I took it on a long run and realised my coolant level was dropping.. added water still losing water... As I was running the van occasionally I'd get anti pollution message up on the the dash.. I used a competent diagnostic reader to monitor engine parameters.. I noticed that the barometric pressures on cylinders 3 and 4 where dropping below operating pressure not by much but a difference non the less. This lead me to doing an engine strip down and rebuild.. results to follow
 
I think my van might be coming down with the same issue. Started off with not getting heat coming into the cabin. Spent ages trying to fix that with nothing working. Now suspecting head gasket as iv done the reld head gasket test and it turns green every time. Iv not noticed any pressurising coolant or over heating yet but im probably at the early stages.
 
So got same problem. Replace hed gasket did pressure test for hed and still no heating and overpressure in colant system. Seems its never ending story
Not sure about that conclusion ..................

If the head gasket replacement job was done properly, a warped head/deck/stud problem would/could have been picked up and addressed before all the work was done :sneaky:
 
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