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Trafic Misfire

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#1 ·
Hope this is posted in the right place.

Hi. New to the forum - Renault Trafic and to OBD after several years good service from my Xantia diesel.


Got a second hand 2008 Renault Trafic dci115 – 50k miles at New Year and took it trouble free up to Aviemore returning a decent 39mpg. It has been standing, Wife has used it for a few short journeys without complaint, but it has recently developed a misfire of sorts.


I have been given a Foxwell NT200 to try – with a view to purchase. Connecting it brings up Fault Code ‘P0202’ – Injector Circuit / Open Cylinder 2. Looking for more detail www.obd-codes.com gives possibilities of 1) bad injector, 2) open or 3) short cct to injector, 4) bad PCM and a list of possible solutions.


Being something of a ‘rookie’ with the Trafic and OBD, just wondered if this was a common problem and if there was a most likely solution of this issue. Any tips on resolving?


Thanks
Malc
 
Discussion starter · #12 ·
Yes the tray under the bonnet has been sealed after they did the injectors. I was told by Harretts that they were told to do this when Trafics were in for service. Wether or not this makes a significant difference to the galvanic corrossion of dis-similar metals or not. But with research and development of someone like Renault, I find it difficult to believe that they assemble engines with aluminium alloy, steel and copper with these injectors. It's some thirty years ago I first experienced a steel bolt bolt in an aluminium casting of a Thule roof bar, not to mention steel brake pad pins in alloy caliper castings.
 
Discussion starter · #10 ·
After Renualt got a bit of one injector stuck, got them to call Tony _ http://www.apautodiagnostics.com/injector-removal-service who I was originally wanting to do job.
Tony removed the injector end - vehicle now back together and running great again.
Have a look at his web page - I would certainly recommend him to anyone with an injection issue.
Thanks to all for help.
Malc
 
Discussion starter · #9 ·
Hi,
just back from a visit to local Renault main agent confirming injector 2 being faulty. So Foxwell - P0202 was correct.

As recommended - decided to have all four replaced. I was shown the corrossion mainly around 2 and told of possible problem getting injectors out. He put a penetrating oil on and said to leave it for a week or two.

Not a welcome expense, but hopefully that'll be it for a while.
 
Discussion starter · #7 · (Edited)
Thanks Dave. Did you do any testing for resistance on the old injectors to prove things to yourself? Suppose if it worked you wern't bothered.

Is 50k miles an expected time for injector failure. Previous technology for injectors in Peugeot 405 > 176K miles and Xantia > 150k miles without issue.

Is this an actual breakdown of the injector or would some 'Forte' diesel treatment cleaning qualities be a benefit?
 
Discussion starter · #5 ·
Usual diesel problem. Spent hundreds of pounds a few years ago on a Fiat Marea with garage diags, even replacing the ECU. Eventually resolved it myself for £15 - EGR Modulator Valve.

I had orginally thought to give EGR a clean.

I was under the impression that from early 90s legislation standardised ECU diags. I'll take it back explaining view on Renault diags.

It's been raining all day today, will let you know after a clean of EGR.

Thanks
 
Discussion starter · #3 ·
Thanks for prompt reply.

It starts and idles fine, as well as I'm aware. It is usually on harder acceleration. It seems to pull away OK, on realatively hard acceleration it either feels to miss a little or dies - really lacks power, but comes back immediately. One or two red lights come on but so briefly I haven't caught what they are.

On the Foxwell, is this not really worth purchase?

Malc