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#1 ·
just let you know i have a 2010 megane 1.5 dci, 31000 on clock, just turned two years old.
timing belt snapped, engine mangled.
renault have replaced this under warranty.
just thought i would let you's know....be aware!
 
#2 ·
Re: megae 3, 1.5 dci 106

Interesting:
Did you have the 2 services in at 12k and 24k?
Was it definitely the belt and not the tensioner?

The reason I ask is, my last car the tensioner failed at 13k and had the same effect of badly damaging the engine.
It was a common fault, which they didnt let on to me about, I only discovered it later.Vauxhall/Opel.

They reduced the timing belt interval change from 40k to 30k on those engines.

Renault has a 100k belt change interval on the 1.5 !. I hope technology has moved on as much as they say.
What exactly did they replace? , new engine?
 
#4 ·
Yeh ,
Then again my 2011 one has a 12k/or one year service interval.
This was a new policy in 2011, In Ireland at least and the computer is set that way.
Perhaps they discovered an inordinate number of warranty claims with possibly only one service in 35,000 miles .
Perhaps in the same way they reduced replacement intervals on my previous opel.
Obviously thas not your problem, but renaults.

When I saw the advertised service/oil filter change interval of 18k it seemed a bit long to me and I was considering getting a mid service interval oil change only done at 9k.
Since the service interval has been reduced to 12k here ,I wasnt too worried.

How long will the engine be covered for now?.
If it isnt for the 3year or 4 year guarantee you got originally,Id consider getting the oil and filter changed every 12k, even tho that probably didnt have anything to do with the belt letting go.

Renasuit :) are doing a 5 year guarantee here now,whether its they can afford to with a 12k service interval,its marketing, or just to keep their dealers service depts with plenty of work, I dont know.
 
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#6 ·
Renault have issued a recall on megane/scenic3 with k9k engines. All affected engines that are covered under this recall are to be checked when booked into Renault dealers. If there are signs of wear to the timing belt then the engine is to be replaced.
Not sure if Renault have contacted customers regarding potential damage but I personaly wouldnt take the risk. Phone youre nearest dealer and ask if your car is covered under this note, they should be able to tell you over the phone.
 
#11 ·
Silverbacksauce said:
All affected engines that are covered under this recall are to be checked when booked into Renault dealers. If there are signs of wear to the timing belt then the engine is to be replaced.
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I'm puzzled (it doesn't take much these days)...

But if there is a cover chafing a belt (which hasn't snapped), why junk an otherwise sound engine, when replacing the belts/tensioners & cover would resolve this problem?

Not doubting your info, but I'm struggling to see the logic in throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Paul
 
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Arr be this true and kept quiet like my previous vauxhall.in the sense it wasnt a recall but ,
message to dealers :"Dealer if theres damage repair it.+ reduce service intervals, ( the vauxhall had upgraded components in subsequent manufacture).
Where is the source of this info Silver, or is it just a rumour..in the sense I havent received any recall info or heard about it.

Thinks: "Am I just lucky or what" :)?
Just google?
 
#9 ·
mm wholly sheet.
well Ill just have to call on Tue.
I wonder what the "thing" is on Meg/Scenic III's since the k9k has been around a long time..
Grr I hate these,it might let go n it might not "little problems".

My ecotec type petrol engine when it went bang at 13k,i originally thought was just one of those things and it went fine for 70k after that.
I didnt knoe about the"low probabilty of failure problem" until after I looked into it.
This new possibility doesnt fill me with confidence, Ill look into it.
 
#12 · (Edited)
For sure seems a lil strange if engine is still ok but anyway.

I do about 10k miles per year,
which considering the mileage that the original posters cambelt let go at would put me just outside guarantee in 27 months .

My vauxhall/opel engine destruction incident happened at like 16 months,some 4 months outside the then guarantee period.
At the time I was all: doffing my cap n thankee kindly for fixin under guarantee even tho it had expired.
When I bought the car there were other manufacturers doing 2 and 3 year guarantees and the salesman assured me if anything nasty happened in that tineframe I would be "looked after".
I took this as like something major(blown engine being fairly major).


(a)There was no mention at all of how widespread the tensioner problem was from the dealer end.
There was real: "Why didnt you stop driving immediately,this is going to put us thru a lot of trouble " stuff.

(When it happened I was driving along at about 60 just before a town like half a mile away and Id started to slow down,sounded like a branch had become stuck under the car ,There were cars behind me and I decided Id check what got jammed under there with the street lights.
The belt had probably slipped one notch with the tensioner disintegrating as I slowed down.
I stopped at a well lit place, nothing visible,tried to start the car again,belt might have slipped another notch or 2 just with the turning off n trying to start again.engine didnt move again before dealers workshop)

Back to (a)
I was a little put out by the attitude:" Youve been a very naughty boy, sigh, but weel do you a favour on your 13k car"

At this point I got the "skinny" from the net.
Widespread problem , but probably the bean counters didnt consider it worthwhile to do a recall.
Tensioner design was changed on later production models.

One of the afflicted in the UK(also out of official guarantee), a lady owner informed them that she wasnt gonna take a repaired engine.who knows what other stresses had been inflicted on the engine..she wanted a brand new engine.
Which in my opinion is fair enough, even if she stopped the car in like 30 sec.
What she got was a brand new car for like £500

Me :"armed with my new information", I went back in to the dealer to check on progress. I had a loaner.

The now in my view,snotty service manager went into some speil about how the head would have to be sent off to some specialist as there were nicks in it and yaddah yaddah bent valves.

I came back with a more informed: dont give me any sheet attitude: Youre probably making more money on guarantee backsheesh from opel than you would if the whole engine was being replaced.I know now that this problem is notified and people are getting brand new cars not just brand new engines.
Ill take the repaired engine since youve started on it, but dont give me any sob stories.

I got the car back 2 days later and to be fair it ran really well for another 75k.

This thing is a little worrying tho.. like ripleys "believe it or not"
Ill do my best to find out on tue, it must have been corrected by now, if it is this cover thing.

They must have engine nos after which the fault is corrected.
If im in the good zone ( Jan 11 manufacture for me} ,ill post.
If Im in the "naughty spot" not sure what ill do in my situation , but ill still post any relevant info.
 
#14 ·
The first rule of fight club is .

First guy I talked to said there was np no notification , if there was a recall manufacturer would be in contact etc etc.

2nd guy I talked to when I called back later informed me "there is a small issue with k9k equipped certain models..a very small number, they did 2 of them last year"..what doing 2 of em meant I dunno, replace whole engine cos belt went or this cover and the belt.

My particular one isnt affected hurrah! whether its because of the date of manufacture or what ,not sure.
He wasnt goin to be givin info like that over the phone.
Sorry I dont have any exact info on model type or engine/vin numbers but your best bet if concerned is as suggested above to call up and enquire about your particular car.
 
#15 · (Edited)
Since service is due ,,Im posting on this thread again.

Specifically on cambelts on 1.5 dci engines.
You will notice,probably that service intervals have gone up in recent years on renaults and others.Seems to me its more a bragging game than anything else.
Anyway:
My meg 3 service sheet specifies 30k km(18k miles) service intervals.

From new mine was set at 20k km for service,seems they dont even trust the manufacturer figures :)

The meat:
Renault cambelt change is listed on my warranty sheet for 160k km.. as near as you like to 100k miles.

I came across a operational pdf file,which I cant link from a fleet/hire operator.
Megane 2 and 3 1.5 dci engines a 12k mile service interval must be strictly adhered to or financial penalties will apply.
(even if under guarantee)

megane II and III 1.5 dci models,if mileage is over 50k and the guarantee has expired, the cambelt must be changed immediately or financial penalties will apply.

Megane II and III 1.5 dci models the cambelt must be changed at 60000 miles, or financial penalties will apply.

Further corporate instructions were .. any turbo equipped diesel engine must have oil changed with fully synthetic oil, for longevity .The cambelt changes must be done with full "kits".or financial penalties will apply ,etc

For sure these cars will have a tougher life,but considering this and prev experience.,if I still have my meg at 50k..thas when Ill change the cambelt.
 
#17 · (Edited)
:) I tried the search terms Id been using and it didnt show again :( so I had to go back thru browser history.

Its an internal company pdf and they have a fleet/or fleets :) of cars and vans.
Messaging a piece of the first sheet that caught my eye.
I dunno if it can be mentioned in other than "what I read" form here or not :devil:

nb The sheet(s) said something along the lines of "dont use the intervals in the handbook or the warranty sheet,instead use these(as mentioned above)
The shorter intervals are of course for company cars that will be driven hard..but Id prefer to err on the cautious side of things even if I dont drive mine hard (much) :)
 
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#18 ·
Hi I've just had my september 2011 17000 miles megane coupe 1.5dci in for a service and mot at an arnold clark renault dealer. I dropped the car off at 8am on Friday and asked for it to be ready about 2pm. They called me at 1:50pm and said the car failed on a torn tyre so I said ok replace the tyre. They then recommended a few other things that needed done. I said no as I needed to pick my car up to collect my Mother from hospital at 2:30. I said just replace the tyre in order to pass the mot, the other things could be done at a later date. The lady I was speaking to said she would go check how long it would be for them to replace the tyre. She was away for about 5 mins, when she came back she said the timing belt needed checked as there was a recall on my model. I told her the car was serviced at another arnold clark renault dealer the year before with no mention of a recall. She said the mechanic said it might be dangerous to drive and I should leave it with them until Monday when they would have the parts but she did not say what parts. She then said as we need to keep the car should we go ahead and do the other recommended work which was wheel alignment, brake cleaning and replacing the locking nuts on my alloys that I didn't know were missing. I asked why she had not said 5 minutes ago about the major problem with the timing belt she said the mechanic had just told her when she asked about the tyre. My first thought was it was a delaying tactic to get me to pay for the other work. I did not want to take the car if it was dangerous. I asked for a courtesy car as I needed one for my disabled Mother. She put me on hold came back and said yes to the courtesy car and also added they had the parts instock and I could collect my car the next day instead of Monday. She then asked again if they should do the other work, I said no again. When I went to collect the courtesy car I asked her why I was never contacted about a recall. She said it wasn't a recall but a recommended check on my model. She said I could collect my car later that day or the following day and she would call me to bring my car back for the timing belt problem. Half an hour earlier they recommended I don't drive the car. As she was showing me to the courtesy car she asked again about the other work, again I said no. I did a google search for timing belt recalls which led me here. As I said I think they wanted me to pay for the extra work but I'm confused about the timing belt issue. When I collect my car I will ask for more information. Is there anymore information on the models affected by this problem I would rather they keep the car till they fix it than drive it and cause more damage. Or do you think they are simply trying to keep my car longer to squeeze more cash from me. As the timing belt check wasn't mentioned till I refused the extra work.
Sorry for the long post.
 
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#19 ·
The dealer is replacing my timing belt. She said they have been told by Renault to check and replace the timing belts as a precaution. I still don't understand why they didn't tell me about this check when I booked the car in. She said the timing belt would be changed for free and would usually cost around £450. Implying they are doing me a massive favour. I said Renault wouldn't be doing this for free if there wasn't a problem with the timing belts. I would advise anyone with this model to contact there renault dealer.
 
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#20 · (Edited by Moderator)
i got in touch with renault uk after my engine went bang and they told me to get my car to renault :censored: they wiil check my car and see what they can do ,

had a phone call off renault uk today and they are putting a new engine in my car at no cost to me as they said its a know problem , thank you renault uk as when i spoke to renault :censored: they didnt want to know until i said to them i have rung renault uk

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Please don't name a specific dealer by either name or location
 
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#23 ·
wasntme said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...oads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/330486/non-coded-action-bulletin-4.pdf
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After speaking to DVSA about this issue, Please note Renault have incorrectly informed DVSA about the VIN range noted above. It is NOT VF1J22B0D43787470 but it should be VF1JZ2B0D43787470 and applies to all vehicles fitted with K9K 832 1.5 dci diesel engines. As a result of this error, Renault may have not got the complete list of people affected by the issue from the DVLA and hence would not have had letters sent to customers for recall. People with vehicles fitted with this engine should speak to Renault UK asap.
 
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#22 ·
Hi guys,

The timing belt on my Renault Grand Scenic 2010 (60 plate) shredded and the K9K engine (1.5 dci) has lost its compression. Having read through the forum, it appears as a manufacturing fault due to the timing belt rubbing against the misaligned fuel pump.

I have already contacted Renault UK about this issue. Could you please let me know if anyone had a shredded timing belt because of this issue and had their engine replaced by Renault Free of Charge? Could you please let me know how did you go about this with Renault customer service? When I put my fingers through the black plastic case I can clearly see the sides of the belt shredded even though the belt is not actually snapped.

I read the Non code Action Bulletin from DVSA and it is strange Renault haven't proactively called on affected vehicles for a recall. The way I had to dangerously stop due to sudden power loss on the motorway put me and my family (with 2 infant daughters) at high risk.

Interestingly when I enter the VIN numbers listed on VOSA Non code Action Bulletin document on Renault Recalls website, it states no recalls against the VIN number.

I would appreciate if anyone here can advise me on the course of action.

Thanks in advance for your reply.
 
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