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51 Kangoo water in passenger side footwells **Cured**

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I've a new-to-me Kangoo (51 plate) and most things seem to work.
When we bought it, there was no water in the footwells (and it had been parked outside), but once it rained, there's water there - it's most disconcerting to have water sloshing around when driving :laugh:
I've checked the drains below the windscreen, and they are clear both sides. After checking them, I gave the windscreen a good hose down and nothing came in. My wife swears she can see a wet line from water running down the mat below the heater - but I think that may be just from water sloshing forward under braking.
Are there any other known water ingress points on these ? I can't see any damage to the door seals.
I noticed today that both footwells were dry - but forgot to look under the seat. It's been parked up for several days, and the neighbours say it rained a fair bit while we were away. Once I started driving, the swimming pool was back - so it was either hiding under the mats, or was in the "pool" between two transverse ribs under the passenger seat.

Also, and I'll start a new thread on the electrics, I've just got back from the garage where he's been trying to program a new remote for me. We only got one key, and the remote doesn't work (no click as the microswitch is broken) - so we don't know how long it is since the remote worked. At the garage, he says he's run through the sequence a couple of times, it seems to recognise and sync the remote, but it won't lock/unlock the doors. He's wondering if there's water in the body electrics module which is apparently on the passenger side.
 
#2 ·
When you say you have checked the drains how did you do this?
I would be inclined to go into the scuttle area and ensure all the drain channels are clear ...i know some Renaults had a channel in the centre unsure if the Kangoo does but someone on here will know ..plenty threads on here showing how to access and clean the drains ...think both your issues are connected
 
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When you say you have checked the drains how did you do this?
Visual inspection. Took out some sort of access panel on drivers side, and a "gutter" thing (what is that for ?) underneath - and pulled the plastic panel out a bit on the passenger side (as far as it would go without taking wiper arms off). I could see clear drain holes at each end.
I would be inclined to go into the scuttle area and ensure all the drain channels are clear ...i know some Renaults had a channel in the centre unsure if the Kangoo does but someone on here will know ..plenty threads on here showing how to access and clean the drains ...think both your issues are connected
That was sort of the next step in the absence of better advice. Looks like it just needs the wiper arms off and then the whole plastic cover will come off.

Reminds me of a mate who had a Mk1 Cortina Estate.
Hey, I'm used to Land Rovers - there's an old joke about them ...
Why do the floors leak in a Land Rover ? To let the water out that leaked in through the roof :grin2: I always try and park my 90 facing downhill as it has a common leak in the gutter, and if parked flat then the gutter channel fills with water - and the inner side of it holds a fair bit :surprise:
And I had a Mk II Escort with a sunroof. Never could get it watertight, so I used to park that facing downhill (as it kept least water that way) and leave a washing up bowl on the driver's seat.

Scuttle drains are always favourite on Megs, Scenics, Kangoos.

Not only must top end be clear of mud, gunge, leaves etc but drain pipes as well.
When you hose down the screen, you should be able to see water draining from inside the wheel arch inner covers.
Yes I could see water running out, but I'll take a closer look.

I don't know if the Kangoo sill structure is the same as the Clio ?
The Clio has drain holes in the sills that block for a past time and the over flow for them is into the cabin about halfway back of the front seats.
That's certainly something that would fit with my observations - though where the water is getting into the sill is another matter :confused:
The method of clearing these on the Clio is ; with the car facing down hill, remove the rear part of the front wheel arch liner (and the sound insulation stuffing) then at the bottom is a drain hole, remove debris and you will probably have water running out. Be sure to pull all debris out not push it in !
Right, I'll check that too.

Just need some nice weather after work tomorrow ...
 
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....but I think that may be just from water sloshing forward under braking.......Once I started driving, the swimming pool was back -
Reminds me of a mate who had a Mk1 Cortina Estate.
Rear wheel arch was corroded so every time it rained, water was pumped into the load area.
When he braked, it all rushed forward.
Self draining though, there was also a hole in the passenger footwell :grin2:

Scuttle drains are always favourite on Megs, Scenics, Kangoos.

Not only must top end be clear of mud, gunge, leaves etc but drain pipes as well.
When you hose down the screen, you should be able to see water draining from inside the wheel arch inner covers.
This is where the pipes come out and the lower end often clogs.
Fetching the arch covers off is often needed.

Apart from that, anywhere there is a hole in the shell.
Lights, wing mirrors, door seals, door drains.
 
#4 ·
Hi


I don't know if the Kangoo sill structure is the same as the Clio ?
The Clio has drain holes in the sills that block for a past time and the over flow for them is into the cabin about halfway back of the front seats.


The method of clearing these on the Clio is ; with the car facing down hill, remove the rear part of the front wheel arch liner (and the sound insulation stuffing) then at the bottom is a drain hole, remove debris and you will probably have water running out. Be sure to pull all debris out not push it in !


Hope this helps


Al
 
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I don't know if the Kangoo sill structure is the same as the Clio ?
The Clio has drain holes in the sills that block for a past time and the over flow for them is into the cabin about halfway back of the front seats.
Got chance to look at this after work. Got the liner out enough to look behind, and found a couple of inches of ... err ... "silt" filling up the void behind it. I could see the front end of the sill, but couldn't see any drain hole - after I'd cleared the silt of course.
I put a few gallons of water down the scuttle panel, and it gushed out down the back of the wheelarch.
 
#9 ·
Hi. Ive got the same problem (water coming in on passenger side) in my Kangoo. Drains from scuttle end cleared by garage a couple of months back and all seemed well but not after today's downpour

Did clearing the silt/gunge from behing arch liner do the trick ?

Today I baled out the footwell and dried it off. Hour and half later (with heavy rain) and I'm back to a big puddle :/
 
#10 ·
Realised that I never got back with the outcome of this one.

I have a terrible memory, and SWMBO reminded me that when we first looked at it - there was a crack in the windscreen, and so the screen had been replaced. Furthermore, having taken the footwell mat out, the trickle down the front of the footwell was clear to see. "Of course" - obvious when you are reminded that the screen had been replaced, I'd been working on the assumption that one would "just start leaking" on it's own.
Tried going back to the outfit that had replaced the screen, they messed me about for ages and eventually I got got fed up with them. In the end, got National Windscreens out to do a "remove and refit".
Once Adrian started cutting out the screen, it was obvious just how bad a job had been done previously - and he sawed through the old seal with his wire, it kept "jumping" as it hit a gap. Down the passenger side there was about 1/3 gap :surprise:
After he'd refitted the screen - no more leak :grin2: Well worth the 70-something quid it cost. As a bonus, also fixed the problem with the trim across top of screen lifting out and rattling on the roof.

Tip: Based on what I saw, don't ever use Lakeland Windscreens in Kendal - the previous job had been really bodged, and they really didn't seem to want to know when I contacted them.